Qualcomm Timing Shenanagans

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Errol V.'s Comment
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Driving from Atlanta the Charlotte NC, I needed to stop for a 30 minute break. From Atlanta east there no real place to stop, but I calculated i could make a Pilot in Braselton, GA with just a few minutes to spare.

That's, right, 3 minutes left on my 8 hours. NO PLACE TO PARK! So I pulled into a lane on the fuel line. Too many trucks wanted fuel, so I had to pull out and go around - very slowly -while I was on my 30 minute break clock.

So I had to move the truck while I was on break! When my 30 minutes was up, I saw that on the Qualcomm , I had 4:55 left from my 11 hours clock, enough to make my delivery. So I start out from the Pilot, get on the road, turn onto the onramp, and start picking up speed for the Interstate.

Suddenly the GPS lady shouts at me! "You are in hours of service violation!" wtf-2.gif

My 4:55 had been replaced by a negative number (overtime from my original 8 hours).

Moral of this story: since the QC was updated, don't pull that trick of moving or putt-putting on your break! You'll have some explaining to do.

(For all you paper log types, yeah, I know it wouldn't matter, but Swift uses Qualcomm.)

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

James R.'s Comment
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Yea my companies been dealing with this since the update. It doesn't affect me at all but there were a lot of guys leaving one minute early and every one of thems clock was getting messed up. There was one occasion where i pulled forward to make room behind me at a rest area and it blew my break once i started driving but i wasn't taking a break for the hours anyway so i got lucky.

Errol V.'s Comment
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What burns me is I saw the 30 in the time spot, and 4:55 in the upper right corner. Also, when I made that move the GPS lady said "YOU ARE OUT IF HOURS DRIVING TIME". But at the 30 minute mark, she stayed silent when I started moving into the street. Then, once it was too late, she pounced: "YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF YOUR HOURS OF SERVICE TIME ".

murderspolywog's Comment
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Errol I know your pain. Same thing happened to me. Got a question right before I went into the hospital swift sent out a massage saying it only recorded from the last duty change I was wandering if you changed to on duty or to driving right before leaving the pilot if that would keep a violation from happening? Just a thought way to much time on my hand right now.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
James R.'s Comment
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Errol I know your pain. Same thing happened to me. Got a question right before I went into the hospital swift sent out a massage saying it only recorded from the last duty change I was wandering if you changed to on duty or to driving right before leaving the pilot if that would keep a violation from happening? Just a thought way to much time on my hand right now.

The problem is they made it so driving is more sticky and takes total priority. For example, you used to be able to just stop, tap sb again, then keep driving. It would assume you were now driving from that time. No matter what now though, it keeps your driving time for the past 4-5 minutes(used to be 3) and sticks them together, once that happens you can't remove it.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Errol V.'s Comment
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Murderspolywog was wondering:

I was wandering if you changed to on duty or to driving right before leaving the pilot if that would keep a violation from happening?

I'll have to remember that when I try to pull this fast one again.

Brian 's Comment
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I've been having the issues also, but I found that you have to log a minimum of 5 minutes on off duty for it to stick, otherwise when you start moving, it defaults to driving for all time.

Did it to me this morning after my 15 minute pretrip, I went off duty for 3 minutes, then swithed to the driving line, it counted my 3 minutes off duty as driving also

Errol V.'s Comment
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Brian, the 5 minute rule is different. Yes, you need to do 5 minutes of one thing for it to register on your time log.

My 30 minute break showed up as, you know, 30 minutes, then switched to driving after I saw the 30 minute reset (the 4;55).

Brian 's Comment
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I had that happen to me also on my 30 minute break, but I didn't manually switch lines, I just started dring and it defaulted and took my break away, so now I approved my logs after my 30 minute to be sure it won't take it away

Serah D.'s Comment
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Murderspolywog was wondering:

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I was wandering if you changed to on duty or to driving right before leaving the pilot if that would keep a violation from happening?

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I'll have to remember that when I try to pull this fast one again.

Errol, l was about to bombard you with questions till you said you pulled a fast one. Seems like no matter how much we advance with technology, it will never be 100% correct.

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