Driving State To State While On Felony Supervision

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Bruce H.'s Comment
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I am on supervised release and am having some issues with my agent.

I told him I was looking for a cdl driving job but that many companies needed me to be able to go out of state, at least regionally. Since I have kept my nose clean, he gave me permission. Now, he is telling me via email that I need to have a travel permit each time that I plan to leave. I know that I explained to him that I have no way of knowing what tomorrow is going to bring until I call my dispatcher and find out where I'm headed.

I noticed in the above post that it was mentioned that a letter from an agent permitting out of state travel goes a long way towards landing a job.

Does anyone know how to go about getting such a letter, especially if the agent says no such thing is allowed? I know that other people are doing this and I just want my shot too.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Rick S.'s Comment
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Depends on the state you are in - regarding interstate travel.

The charge you are on probation for, may also affect your ability to get hired - as well as, trucking companies do not want to have hassles with an employees ability to travel, or risk the time & $$ it takes to train someone on paper - and risk them getting locked up while OTR because they pop a VOP warrant.

You really haven't given any details on the charges and type of supervision you're on.

If the charge itself, doesn't preclude a hire in the industry - you can get your lawyer to file a motion in front of the judge that's retaining jurisdiction on your case - and request interstate travel privileges be added to the conditions of your probation.

Rick

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

Old School's Comment
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Bruce, I've actually helped some folks with this issue, but I will tell you that it is very rare that it will work out. What we did is have the probation officer write a letter to the company stating that the person who was on supervision had permission to travel from state to state as long as it was related to their job. Not every probation officer is going to do this, and it will sometimes depend on the level of supervision that you are on. I'm only familiar with the rules in Texas, and they have a three tiered level of supervision. The couple of folks that I was able to personally be involved with were determined to be on the lowest level of supervision, and their officer granted them permission. They also had to let them know where they were at all times. Basically they would call each day during business hours and just give a brief description of their day. Something like, "I left upstate New York this morning and am headed to Connecticut for a stop, and then I will go up into Vermont and spend the night there. I'll call you tomorrow and let you know what's next as soon as I can."

This is a very rare possibility, but I have seen it work for some people. I tell people about it because I know it can be done, but pretty much your probation officer of parole officer has to be very lenient on you to allow it, and you usually will have to be a first time offender with no record. Remember, even if you get all this approved through a supervision officer, that is still no guarantee that a trucking company will give you the chance or the opportunity to work for them.

Bruce H.'s Comment
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Thank you for the information, especially the idea of getting a an order from the court. I was able to use Google to find Department of Corrections policies and procedures for my state (Minnesota) and a court order seems to be the way to go. I'm sure that the court will give tremendous weight to the opinion of my supervising agent.

My agent gave me oral permission and I went out and got a job. I began driving. I sent an email asking for his permission in writing just in case I was stopped out of state for any reason. He emailed me back, changed his story, and said that I needed a travel permit. Minnesota only allows travel permits for a total of 45 days in a calendar year. Clearly, this would not work in a trucking career with a company that works regionally. My confusion is why he thought this would work - and gave me permission to pursue it - and only after I found and started a job did he throw up roadblocks. He seems like a fair person, so giving him the benefit of the doubt, I'd have to guess that he thought it was kosher and found out later that it wasn't.

Either way, your idea for getting a court order is a good one. If my agent is interested in helping me with this new career, he can certainly help me get that court order.

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

Charlie Mac's Comment
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Good Luck Bruce.

Errol V.'s Comment
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Bruce, I just want to point out something in your agent + letter story. It's possible that you leaving the state on a trucking job would be just fine by your agent. But if you need to get official, like a letter with his name on it, that's a bit complicated. It would be a roadblock because you need to get the court involved.

Rick S.'s Comment
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Actually - if you go back to court and get a court order/modification, allowing for interstate travel for work - then that disposition/order should suffice to convince a company that the terms of your probation allow for this.

The other wrinkle that might come up - is if you have to report in monthly to your officer. It's usually a "fixed date" to report, and there's no guarantee that your routing is going to get you back there on a specific date. No show = violation.

Depending on how much paper you have left - might even be easier to wait. Or if your state provides for "early termination for good behavior" (and your fines/fees/cost of supervision are paid off), you might get the judge to kick you loose. In florida - if you complete 50% and you're all paid off, you can petition the court for early term.

Rick

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Shiva's Comment
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I am on supervised release and am having some issues with my agent.

I told him I was looking for a cdl driving job but that many companies needed me to be able to go out of state, at least regionally. Since I have kept my nose clean, he gave me permission. Now, he is telling me via email that I need to have a travel permit each time that I plan to leave. I know that I explained to him that I have no way of knowing what tomorrow is going to bring until I call my dispatcher and find out where I'm headed.

I noticed in the above post that it was mentioned that a letter from an agent permitting out of state travel goes a long way towards landing a job.

Does anyone know how to go about getting such a letter, especially if the agent says no such thing is allowed? I know that other people are doing this and I just want my shot too.

felony supervised release sounds like parole to me

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Bruce H.'s Comment
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Thanks, Errol, Rick, and Old School for the helpful thoughts and ideas.

Thanks, Charlie Mac, for the positive thoughts.

Thanks, Shiva, for the brilliant insight.

Shiva's Comment
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Thanks, Errol, Rick, and Old School for the helpful thoughts and ideas.

Thanks, Charlie Mac, for the positive thoughts.

Thanks, Shiva, for the brilliant insight.

You want my insight, let's call it what it is PAROLE. No trucking company is going to hire you when you're on PAROLE, and you have to get permission everything to leave the state. Most companies that do hire ex-felons want you released from PAROLE, and minimum 5-10 years from date of conviction.

Keep trying, there are companies that will hire you, but you just may have to wait until you're off PAROLE

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