Dot Drug Test For Medical Card

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Patrick S.'s Comment
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If someone fails a dot drug urine test but passes everything else will the company still issue a medical card ?

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Errol V.'s Comment
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Patrick, I believe you now have an uphill battle. I'm not sure.

But I do need to know something: Where do you live?

Old School's Comment
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First off, the company doesn't issue the medical card. If you passed the physical you should have been issued the medical card right then by the physician. So, I'm a little confused by the way you posed the question. Can you give a little more information?

I'm not even sure why you're worried about the card. Once you fail a drug test your chances of finding a job are basically non existing.

Rick S.'s Comment
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DOT Medical Cards DO NOT REQUIRE DRUG TESTING.

Pre-Employment physicals DO. Even companies that don't do physicals (as in - experienced licensed CDL drivers, that already have a valid medical card) are REQUIRED BY LAW to do a Drug Screen.

Since most companies we discuss on this board - do their DOT Med Physical and Pre-Employment Drug test at the SAME FACILITY - if you dump the drug screen, you're getting sent home ANYWAY, so the issuance of a DOT Med Card is a moot point.

As OS and Errol have elaborated - failing a drug screen basically is the KISS OF DEATH for ever getting a trucking job.

NOW - you can do the Return To Duty Protocol - and fulfill the LEGAL REQUIREMENTS that are mandated for a failed drug screen - but the odds of getting a job, are very slim.

And showing up for an orientation and failing a drug screen (that is common knowledge will be given), ranges anywhere from silly, to just downright DUMB.

Rick

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Patrick S.'s Comment
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Robert B. (The Dragon) ye's Comment
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I still don't understand how people fail drug tests. Seriously, it baffles me. Even McDonald's makes you take a drug test. What would make someone think a company is going to put them behind the wheel of $200k worth of equipment that can weigh up to 80,000# and not test for drugs ?

Baffle:

A partition or separator within a liquid tank, used to inhibit the flow of fluids within the tank. During acceleration, turning, and braking, a large liquid-filled tank may produce unexpected forces on the vehicle due to the inertia of liquids.
Charlie Mac's Comment
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What would make someone think a company is going to put them behind the wheel of $200k worth of equipment...and not test for drugs ?

The obvious answer is...they were high. 😉

Phil C.'s Comment
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The DOT drug test and your medical card are not related. You do get a urine test during the physical but its for health things like ketones not for drugs at all. The DOT drug test comes later either to be legally allowed to drive the training truck on public roads or to be part of a pre-hire test done by the company. When you do your physical the doctor issues you the medical card and paperwork. Its only once you are going to drive the truck that you will be given a drug test. That's a DOT and insurance requirement.

Phil

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Pre-hire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

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