Off Duty At Receiver

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Kevin H.'s Comment
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OK, of course I know that you are not supposed to be doing anything work-related when off duty, but does anyone park at a receiver, go off duty, then drive to a door when they call you (staying off duty)? I'm at a receiver now, and I had a 1700 appt, but I'm finding out that that doesn't mean much, and I only have a couple hours left on my 14. Should I tell them I can't unload until my 10 is up, or should I just do it off duty? Will the QC stay off-duty? Will my company find out and say something about it?

Robert B. (The Dragon) ye's Comment
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It depends on your elogs. Some will let you go a certain distance before automatically kicking in, some a combination of distance and speed. Some start automatically as soon as the vehicle is in motion.

Elog:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Elogs:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Errol V.'s Comment
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Ok, now. (Ahem) Officially, of you move your truck to a dock, that is doing company work and needs to be marked on the Qualcomm.

Now, think about these two facts: 1. If you drive at 7mph or less, the QC won't kick over to "driving", it will stay on Off Duty or Sleeper. There may be some issues about traveling too far, like in basketball.

2. On a Qualcomm , any activity less than 5 minutes doesn't register anyway, even if you push the buttons.

Now, different question Pat: can you dock in less than 5 minutes? You know you'll be moving at less than 7mph backing in.

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.
Kevin H.'s Comment
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It depends on your elogs. Some will let you go a certain distance before automatically kicking in, some a combination of distance and speed. Some start automatically as soon as the vehicle is in motion.

Hmm...I have driven probably a mile or more total, at road speeds like 35 or so, and not had it kick on. But I was bobtailing, don't know if that makes a difference to the qc (I think it does make what I was doing that time legal, since I was just running to the store). This place is pretty big but I don't think I'll be driving that far. I don't know, maybe I'll just ask them to call me after 3am, it doesn't really matter much to the rest of my week.

Anyway, thanks for the reply.

Bobtail:

"Bobtailing" means you are driving a tractor without a trailer attached.

Elog:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Elogs:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Kevin H.'s Comment
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Ok, now. (Ahem) Officially, of you move your truck to a dock, that is doing company work and needs to be marked on the Qualcomm.

Now, think about these two facts: 1. If you drive at 7mph or less, the QC won't kick over to "driving", it will stay on Off Duty or Sleeper. There may be some issues about traveling too far, like in basketball.

2. On a Qualcomm , any activity less than 5 minutes doesn't register anyway, even if you push the buttons.

Now, different question Pat: can you dock in less than 5 minutes? You know you'll be moving at less than 7mph backing in.

OK, so if I drive for less than 5 minutes then stop for at least 5 minutes, does that mean I'd be OK? I screwed myself up before by backing into a parking space near the end of my 30 minute break, then started driving right when it said I had been off-duty for 30. I guess it retroactively decided that I really started driving after 28 minutes.

Sadly, sometimes I can't dock in 5 minutes if I start out set up perfectly for it.

Who's Pat, is that a reference I'm missing?

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.
Daniel B.'s Comment
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Drive through the facility in 2nd gear with no throttle, it will never kick in if you do that. But it will take a little longer.

Errol V.'s Comment
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No, I messed up. Replace "Pat" with "Kurt".

Yes, I got burned with that 30 minute thing. I took my break in the fuel line, but went around (slowly) when someone pulled behind me. Then 30 minutes up, I pulled out and got onto the interstate. As soon as I got to 30mph, the QC accused me of being out of drive time.

Also, always use the qc elapsed time, nothing else for measuring breaks.

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

Kevin H.'s Comment
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No, I messed up. Replace "Pat" with "Kurt".

Oh, I thought maybe it was a game show host or something.

Anyway, they called me with a door and I had 20 minutes left so I thought I'd go for it, and I drove at normal yard speed and docked, and...still "sleeper berth". But the real test will be, can I get back to the parking lot. I know i can do it in less than 5 minutes, but I think there's some total distance thing too.

I wondered if people regularly did this kind of thing. I'd rather just stay legal if I could do it without messing up my pre-assignments (which happens 3 times a week anyway).

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Errol V.'s Comment
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I said any setting won't "take" if it's less than 5 minutes.

So, pull out from the dock, still Sleeper, switch to On Duty Not Driving and barrel across the yard to parking (5mph), switch back to Sleeper and park. You can drive 4/10 a mile in 5 minutes at 5mph.

Justin N.'s Comment
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You guys got real sensitive elogs there. At jbhunt we can drive around at any speed up to two miles before we get automatically changed over to driving. I always go to sleeper or off duty when at a shipper or receiver for any good amount of time.

Elog:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Elogs:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

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