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Lynn B.'s Comment
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How important is HOS? When you are dropping and hooking? Should you be on the clock or not? I know time is fleeting, but what is legal? Should I be okay with how it has been done or how it should be done now?

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Susan D. 's Comment
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You should absolutely log everything you do. For a drop and hook you should show a minimum of 15 minutes is what I've been told. Oh and yes, that's on duty.

Drop And Hook:

Drop and hook means the driver will drop one trailer and hook to another one.

In order to speed up the pickup and delivery process a driver may be instructed to drop their empty trailer and hook to one that is already loaded, or drop their loaded trailer and hook to one that is already empty. That way the driver will not have to wait for a trailer to be loaded or unloaded.

Errol V.'s Comment
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How important is HOS? When you are dropping and hooking? Should you be on the clock or not? I know time is fleeting, but what is legal? Should I be okay with how it has been done or how it should be done now?

Lynn, knowing and using HOS is about as important for a trucker as oxygen. Almost everything you do during the day is connected to the Hours Of Service regulations.

You should learn ways to "maximize" your drive time as that's what makes your money. Basically, HOS rules limit your work time, and specify the minimum break times.

Are you working in these in school, or are you preparing for the CDL test?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

G-Town's Comment
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Lynn, Definitely agree with Sue. Not sure if you have seen this link:

Learn The Logbook Rules (HOS)

Hopefully it will help you with understanding HOS rules.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Logbook:

A written or electronic record of a driver's duty status which must be maintained at all times. The driver records the amount of time spent driving, on-duty not driving, in the sleeper berth, or off duty. The enforcement of the Hours Of Service Rules (HOS) are based upon the entries put in a driver's logbook.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
G-Town's Comment
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Lynn, Definitely agree with Sue. Not sure if you have seen this link:

Learn The Logbook Rules (HOS)

Hopefully it will help you with understanding HOS rules.

And Errol. Spot on.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Logbook:

A written or electronic record of a driver's duty status which must be maintained at all times. The driver records the amount of time spent driving, on-duty not driving, in the sleeper berth, or off duty. The enforcement of the Hours Of Service Rules (HOS) are based upon the entries put in a driver's logbook.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Lynn B.'s Comment
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How important is HOS? When you are dropping and hooking? Should you be on the clock or not? I know time is fleeting, but what is legal? Should I be okay with how it has been done or how it should be done now?

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Lynn, knowing and using HOS is about as important for a trucker as oxygen. Almost everything you do during the day is connected to the Hours Of Service regulations.

You should learn ways to "maximize" your drive time as that's what makes your money. Basically, HOS rules limit your work time, and specify the minimum break times.

Are you working in these in school, or are you preparing for the CDL test?

I am in training to work for a company. I am hired, but in training with a person who knows the tricks. A good trainer, nice person. Just worried about new regulations and if something happens while off the clock.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Lynn B.'s Comment
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I should add that I school is done, passed my CDL test I am in training. I hear a lot about CYA. Where do you draw the line and who do you trust? I have been through many weigh stations, got to do log books. Much training I have been through, yes!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Trucker Kearsey 's Comment
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Sit down with your company's log person and ask them what they specifically want. When we upgrade at Prime we see log person who reviews every student if it appears the logs have not been kept properly during training they give you a sit down... not a reprimand.. just for information. They also gave a log class to those upgrading.

My friend was told by his company to log on duty for all customer time even while in sleeper. I was told no more than 30 min and I could go in sleeper while loading or unloading.

I know trainers who stop at long traffic lights and go off duty. Those who sit in traffic jams and go off. I know trainers who told me to have one 15 min on duty time per day... or close to it to avoid pattern logging... 12 min.. 16 min etc.

I do what I was told to do. Avoids problems hahaha. I still get my miles so why stress about it

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Errol V.'s Comment
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Rainy has a good description. It's sort of like the game you might play with speed limits: going 58 in a 55 zone. Technically it's illegal, but hey ...

Receiving and shipping need to be on On Duty Not Driving (ODND). But after about 15-20 minutes, if you need to wait, it's Sleeper time (SB). Yes, stuck in a serious traffic jam, it's SB until we move most than a few feet.

Matt M.'s Comment
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My friend was told by his company to log on duty for all customer time even while in sleeper.

If you are running a reefer , don't do this unless you only want to drive 1,000 miles a week.

Reefer:

A refrigerated trailer.

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