Axle Weights And Tandem Limits

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Kevin H.'s Comment
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Well, yeah, I am paranoid, but it's not like what I'm suggesting is unheard of. And I post it here but I don't say anything about it to anyone else. I do think I was being strung along about it possibly being reworked again so that they wouldn't have to just tell me I'm sitting for a day and a half.

To answer some of the above, I'm pretty sure it's not air ride. It is bottled water and they already reworked it once and I went directly back to the scale. The total is 79660 but the tandems are over by 580. If I had it to do over I would probably slide the tandems back a few more holes,, it would scale legal and probably no one's going to notice, I did it before when I didn't realize that I shouldn't go beyond hole 14.

Anyway, thanks for the responses. Maybe I've just been spoiled because this is the first time anything like this has happened.

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Kevin H.'s Comment
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Oh, also forgot to mention, I was told yesterday they refused to rework it again so I should drop the load at the shipper. So I did, turned in the paperwork and left, so I don't consider it a load I'm stuck with at this point.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

OldRookie's Comment
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I also picked up a pre-loaded trailer of pipe one time that had three stops on it. Due to the order of the stops the load couldn't be re-worked to make it any better. It ended up being over on the trailer tandems by about 280 pounds. I rolled that load over eight scale houses, each of them decided it was insignificant enough to not bother me about it. Does that mean that you will get a pass like I did? Absolutely not, but I took the chance knowing that it was a very small amount of overage. The load had a lot of miles on it, and I made the decision to roll with it - I was willing to accept the consequences so that I could keep moving. Decisions always involve consequences or compromises of some sort. You will get better at knowing how to handle situations like this as you gain experience, but there is always the chance that what you decide is going to backfire on you. Being stuck somewhere like you are without getting compensated really sucks, getting a ticket for being overweight sucks too. You will get better as you gain experience at knowing how to handle a situation like this.

How do the fines for being overweight work? I guess they vary State-to-State... but, in general, are we talking a lot of money in fines for being a couple of hundred pounds overweight on your tandems... while not exceeding weight overall?

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Old School's Comment
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There are extreme variations in how they are calculated. What may cost fifty bucks in Louisiana could possibly run 750 dollars in Virginia. Usually the overweight ticket is issued to the company, not the driver. You sure don't want to be the guy that's getting the company a bunch of violations.

OldRookie's Comment
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There are extreme variations in how they are calculated. What may cost fifty bucks in Louisiana could possibly run 750 dollars in Virginia. Usually the overweight ticket is issued to the company, not the driver. You sure don't want to be the guy that's getting the company a bunch of violations.

Yep... duly noted.

BUDLIGHT Express's Comment
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CHP scale Facilities as policy will give you 200 lbs off your weight, due to possible scale error. But, they are certified every year just so you know. Most Officers don't write citations for weights under 500 lbs. But, I said "Most". Goodluck out there.

G-Town's Comment
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How many pallets of water is on your trailer? I haul water constantly and have never been heavy on the tandems in the 11 hole let alone 14. With 22 pallets of water in the 6 hole my drives are usually around 33,600-33,800, tandems 33,300-33,500. 22 pallets is at the 44' mark for the trailer.

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Kevin H.'s Comment
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How many pallets of water is on your trailer? I haul water constantly and have never been heavy on the tandems in the 11 hole let alone 14. With 22 pallets of water in the 6 hole my drives are usually around 33,600-33,800, tandems 33,300-33,500. 22 pallets is at the 44' mark for the trailer.

Unfortunately I don't know how many pallets or how far back it was loaded. I normally do 2 of these loads a week, pick them up pre-loaded, and before I seal the doors I look inside to make sure there are no stowaways or trapped cats, and also to see which product it is and how far back it's loaded. This time I remember noticing that it was 1 gallon jugs (at the back at least) but they were loaded farther back than 1 gals jugs usually are. After the first rework the shipper insisted that it couldn't be illegal because nothing was farther back than 45 feet. I have no idea if that was true or not, Maybe there was something wrong with the trailer or the scale (it was a cat scale at the nearby truck stop).

Anyway, I'm officially done with that load now, but half my week is gone. Call me paranoid if you like but I still think it's likely they made me sit on purpose, so I'd think twice about it next time. Like Old School said, maybe they consider it a rookie mistake, and of course they can't tell me to go ahead and drive illegal, nor could they tell me if they were punishing me for not doing it.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

CAT Scale:

A network of over 1,500 certified truck scales across the U.S. and Canada found primarily at truck stops. CAT scales are by far the most trustworthy scales out there.

In fact, CAT Scale offers an unconditional Guarantee:

“If you get an overweight fine from the state after our scale showed your legal, we will immediately check our scale. If our scale is wrong, we will reimburse you for the fine. If our scale is correct, a representative of CAT Scale Company will appear in court with the driver as a witness”

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

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