Logging Hours At The Truck Stop.

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18 Wheels of Steel's Comment
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So today i got to the truck stop with about 15 minutes of driving time left. I switched to on duty and attempted to back into my spot. For whatever reason, i was having a rough time at it and kept having to reset, even circle around the lot to try and set up better. I managed to take a good 45 minutes to finally get parked.

During this time, the QualComm kicked me back onto the drive line, retroactive to when the wheels first started turning, giving me a nice little HOS violation on the QC.

Now, since I never left the parking lot, that entire time should have been considered on duty, not driving, right?

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
G-Town's Comment
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I suggest contacting your driver manager and speak to them about what happened.

Driver Manager:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
18 Wheels of Steel's Comment
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I did, they told me to send a message describing the situation on the QC. This was night dispatch I dealt with so they told me I have to wait until my actual DM arrives tomorrow morning. I'm just trying to figure out if this is actually a violation of HOS or not.

I suggest contacting your driver manager and speak to them about what happened.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Driver Manager:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Kurt G.'s Comment
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As far as I know, if you're at the controls driving, it's logged as driving, unless it meets the conditions for off duty driving. But I could be wrong.

I've gone over my hours while parking, and the qc announces that I'm out of driving time every time I put it in gear, so as I was going back and forth trying to park it just kept saying it over and over.

Tractor Man's Comment
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In four months Solo, I have only been in a real close HOS situation 2 or 3 times. Never violated but came damn close. That was early on in my so far short time out here. I learned very quickly to avoid it if at all possible. I would rather shut down earlier and avoid the situation all together. 45 minutes is about as far as I will push it. Sometimes earlier if I anticipate traffic or a crowded parking situation. Just not worth the stress or the visit to, or phone call from the Safety/Logs Department!

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HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Terminal Rat ( aka...J's Comment
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I actually had this happen at the terminal once. I literally only had one minute left when I got there. I was looking for a place to park and it switched over to driving. I think it switches at around 15 minutes no matter how fast or far you are going. I just left it alone and since I was at the terminal nobody ever said a word about it. LOL

JJ

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Kurt G.'s Comment
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My company isn't that strict about it. If you're a few minutes over once in a while they don't say anything. In fact I think they actually appreciate it if you're doing it to get a load delivered. A while back I was 1/2 hour over my 14 because I got stuck behind an accident, and I was told not to do that. We're supposed to pull over and call in, and I guess they send a tow truck or something.

18 Wheels of Steel's Comment
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Since it reverted back to when i first started trying to back, it actually put me 22 minutes over. I guess the FMCSA book says drive time is all time at the driving controls. it doesn't say anything about private property or anything like that, so i guess i am screwed. My compliance has been perfect thus far, but i do have a couple minor backing incidents, so who knows what is going to happen to me. I really hate having to worry about this stuff, but I guess I will find out one way or the other by tomorrow.

My company isn't that strict about it. If you're a few minutes over once in a while they don't say anything. In fact I think they actually appreciate it if you're doing it to get a load delivered. A while back I was 1/2 hour over my 14 because I got stuck behind an accident, and I was told not to do that. We're supposed to pull over and call in, and I guess they send a tow truck or something.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Tractor Man's Comment
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My company isn't that strict about it

I would love to know how The DOT looks at those "small" violations when they Audit the Company Logs. There must be some leniency, unless a Company has LOTS of them with MANY Drivers. Just curious.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Kurt G.'s Comment
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Of course I don't know what you're company will say, but I feel like you shouldn't worry too much. You were in a parking lot parking, there's not much else you can do at that point.

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