Swift To Remove Driver Facing Cameras

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Matt M.'s Comment
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Prime trialed them and, at least for now, decided not to go with them (or the outward facing cameras either). They didn't make any public statement that I know of.

The only reason I knew about them was it came up in our Smith system class and the instructor told us they had trialed them in a number of trucks and nixed the idea. The reason he gave was that having evidence of a driver's misbehavior wasn't going to help them in a lawsuit. May have just been conjecture on his part.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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May have just been conjecture on his part.

Without conjecture, truck stops would sound like libraries. And all you'd hear in the rec center at the terminals is the bounce of ping pong balls.

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Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Errol V.'s Comment
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Errol's gonna get fat with all the oreo's he can eat now.

I shop at Costco.

Yes, the inside cams are shut down. And I'm in the large "minority" - let the cameras roll!

Just two days ago I was called in for stopping "past the intersection barrier line" (the crosswalk) on a dark and stormy night. Yes, I did. But the inside camera showed I was paying attention to the street, so I was good on that account.

Driver's Comment
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I just got the Qualcomm message and see there already 19 posts! What a hot topic. We can now cover our inside facing camera lens. This is a big policy change from the largest carrier, so will have a ripple effect in the trucking industry. I have to admit, when the camera was installed in my truck I driver, I was not happy.

I can't help but think Swift was either loosing drivers or could not hire experienced drivers because of the Camera? Possibly, there were lawsuits against the company based on the camera recordings?

I have mixed feelings about the in-cab camera now. The positive for me was it remove 100% my usage of a cell phone while driving for using the the app 'trucker path'. I was written up, so switched to a tablet on dash. Much safer. Cells phones are a big problem and are a vice.

The failure with Swift was that the implementation of the camera was horrible. Firstly, it was recording when when the truck was off, but this was changed, improvement. The events, we had no way to review unless driving to a Swift terminal. Could Lynx not design an app to watch the camera events? The events that recorded my driving, such as hard breaking, etc. and talking with my DM , did not help me much. In fact, my braking suffered because I was nervous about recording an event. There is a point were you can't be much better of a driver..

I tried once as a mentor and with a student my 10 hour day, I was strapped into the sleeper bunk. Per policy, I could not sit up. It was partly what kept me from continuing mentoring. The student received 3 events in the month and two separate occasions, we had to detour into a terminal to watch the videos.

I feel the inside camera has a place and should be used in these situations: 1. All new drivers for a determined time, 6-8 months, should be required to have the camera. It is a great training device for new drivers.

2. The camera should record and be used if there is ANY accident. That is valuable data and is important to know what happened inside during an accident. If there is a fatal accident, what was happening inside?

I learned to live with inside camera, but the experience was not enjoyable.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Mark S.'s Comment
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the whole purpose of having a driver facing camera was to protect the company from a negligent driver, or to protect a driver from false claims of reckless driving that could ultimately lead to termination of employment or even jail time.

In reality, it was to nail anyone any company wanted to easily get rid of. Besides, yawn on camera, you are screwed.

Mark S.'s Comment
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Let's now see how many distracted driving accidents will occur now. I didn't mind the camera because it is an accountability tool. It got me to stop looking at my cell phone like I used to in the past.

If you needed a camera pointed at you to drop your phone, you should have never been a truck driver in the first place.

Mark S.'s Comment
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I agree. You can not possibly argue that removing these cameras is going to promote better safety. It certainly will not. I'd love to hear Swift talk publicly about the decision. Prime also.

Cuz I'm sharing the road with everyone just the same and I've seen all of the same things you guys have - truckers texting while driving, falling asleep at the wheel, watching movies on their laptop, taking pictures with their camera, a burger in one hand and a drink in the other, reading the map while it's laying over the steering wheel, etc. I've seen it all a million times. I know for a fact this stuff is going on all the time. Right now, in fact.

And these are the same guys crying for their "privacy". Your privacy? From the boss? He's paying you. You're driving his truck. He's financially responsible if you screw up. You're on public highways surrounded by innocent people. That makes no sense.

It all makes no sense to me at all. This seems on the surface to be one of those business decisions where they are knowingly making the highways more dangerous in the name of recruiting more drivers. If that's not what this is then I'd love to hear an explanation from these companies.

If anyone knows of any articles or news footage where company representatives have spoken publicly about removing these cameras, or for choosing not to use them, please put a link to it here. I'd love to learn more about what's going on.

Bootlicker

Outward facing is enough to see if driver is distracted

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Trucker Kearsey 's Comment
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As someone who drove for prime until yesterday, i can attest the camera is a dangerous distraction.

You revived a fossil in this thread. Prime added the cameras last year. They suck.

Papa Pig's Comment
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My company added driver facing cameras a few months ago and I agree with kearsey…they suck. It has yelled at me for distracted driving for holding my hand up and wiggling my fingers or taking a drink. I have went from a sunny to shaded section of road and it has yelled “camera obscured”. I don’t mind forward facing cameras but not a fan or the ai driver facing. As an added bonus I drive slip seat and the camera app is different than my elog app. So I have to sign into both separately. It’s an easy thing to forget logging out at the end of the day and having another driver not log in and mess up your score. It’s not a deal breaker but I’m still not a fan.

Elog:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

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