Logging A Roadside Breakdown

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Geeky Trucker's Comment
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Hi all, I'm back again, feeling much better since my last post actually and I'm starting to get the hang of solo driving, it's becoming easier and more rewarding every week!

So I had a quick question on logging I was hoping to get answered. I'm trying to flip through my FMCSR to find an answer to this but it's not exactly easy to find things in there.

As the title implies, I've just had my first roadside breakdown. Super old looking trailer, rusted looking but solid and I was hoping it would hold for all 1600 miles of this run but earlier today going down the highway I suddenly heard an air leak and my air pressure started dropping fast. I pulled over on the shoulder of the next exit, contacted roadside and 5-6 hours later it's finally fixed, turns out it was a faulty air can.

Now the question is do I need to log this entire time I was on the side of the road as on-duty? My company handbook is a little vague and I'm unsure if it's just from the time until help arrives or the entire time you are receiving repairs. Not sure if this is company policy or FMCSA I can't seem to find anything on it in my pocket book. I took a couple hours off in the middle of them working and I wasn't really needed... I had to avoid running out of drive time. I picked a bad spot to breakdown, 25 miles from the nearest rest stop on my route.

If I do log the whole time now it's going to put me in a deficit for my 70... Which I'll get back and then some at midnight since I'm gaining hours every day but it kind of makes me nervous about delivering on time.

Thanks again for the help in advance!

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Errol V.'s Comment
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I would log most of the waiting time​ as Sleeper. (Off Duty, but you're theoretically in the bunk.) You are doing nothing but waiting. When the repair truck shows up, that could be On Duty Not Driving, since you are working with the technician (describing the situation), but that wouldn't even take 5 minutes (and won't register on an e-log).

So, you might get an extra 30 minute break out of this.

Pianoman's Comment
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Technically, you're supposed to log all that time as On Duty Not Driving. But in reality, I would log most of it as sleeper like Errol said..

not4hire's Comment
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Let your conscience be your guide...

Title 49: Transportation PART 395—HOURS OF SERVICE OF DRIVERS

§395.2 Definitions.

On-duty time means...

(6) All time repairing, obtaining assistance, or remaining in attendance upon a disabled commercial motor vehicle;

§395.2 Definitions.

Commercial Motor Vehicle:

A commercial motor vehicle is any vehicle used in commerce to transport passengers or property with either:

  • A gross vehicle weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more
  • A gross combination weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more which includes a towed unit with a gross vehicle weight rating of more than 10,000 pounds
Errol V.'s Comment
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Pianoman keeps me honest:

Technically, you're supposed to log all that time as On Duty Not Driving. But in reality, I would log most of it as sleeper like Errol said..

I know, putting some Trucker's Secrets into print can raise eyebrows, but there it is.

LDRSHIP's Comment
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I usually log 30 mins of on duty and the rest off duty or sleeper.

Btw, out QualComm requires 3 mins of a status to keep it. So you must log 3 mins of any given status. Otherwise the clock back tracks and takes time for the new status. The only caveat to this is driving. If you are moving around above 5 mph, the QualComm will convert all that time to driving if you exceed 15 mph. To prevent it from taking this time away while "repositioning" at a shipper or receiver, you have to come to a complete stop and change the status to something different.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.
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