Getting The Automatic Transmission Restriction Removed

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G-Town's Comment
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Just a thought...most of the companies will teach you during school (pre CDL) in either an 8 or 10 speed manual. Once you get the CDL and go out with a trainer it then could be an autoshift. Depending on the company you might be okay.

What company?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Rob T.'s Comment
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Just a thought...most of the companies will teach you during school (pre CDL) in either an 8 or 10 speed manual. Once you get the CDL and go out with a trainer it then could be an autoshift. Depending on the company you might be okay.

What company?

I don't know what company he is going with, but I recall a post previously that talked about CR England and/or US express training, and licensing with automatic. I think it was Brett? That said it made sense as they're running 100% automatic fleet and why would they train you on a manual when it doesn't fit what they're doing.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
G-Town's Comment
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Just a thought...most of the companies will teach you during school (pre CDL) in either an 8 or 10 speed manual. Once you get the CDL and go out with a trainer it then could be an autoshift. Depending on the company you might be okay.

What company?

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I don't know what company he is going with, but I recall a post previously that talked about CR England and/or US express training, and licensing with automatic. I think it was Brett? That said it made sense as they're running 100% automatic fleet and why would they train you on a manual when it doesn't fit what they're doing.

As far as I know Swift is still using manual trucks in their schools. However...it's only a matter of time, maybe a short time that all of the companies offering Paid CDL Training Programs will be auto shift.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Rob T.'s Comment
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Just a thought...most of the companies will teach you during school (pre CDL) in either an 8 or 10 speed manual. Once you get the CDL and go out with a trainer it then could be an autoshift. Depending on the company you might be okay.

What company?

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I don't know what company he is going with, but I recall a post previously that talked about CR England and/or US express training, and licensing with automatic. I think it was Brett? That said it made sense as they're running 100% automatic fleet and why would they train you on a manual when it doesn't fit what they're doing.

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As far as I know Swift is still using manual trucks in their schools. However...it's only a matter of time, maybe a short time that all of the companies offering Paid CDL Training Programs will be auto shift.

Apparently I was far off. I found a Thread that references what I was talking about. I had mistaken Brett, for Rainy (I am sorry Brett, no disrespect intended rofl-1.gif Rainy posted that prime will be no longer be testing in manuals. Maybe she could update us if she's heard anything else about it.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Brett Aquila's Comment
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No worries Rob.

I don't think CR England is testing in manuals anymore either. I'm afraid that trend is going to become the norm before too long. I think that's a shame because I hate to see anyone have any type of restrictions on their license. I'm hoping the large carriers can come up with a workaround of some sort but unfortunately it really doesn't benefit the company to train people on manuals when their entire fleet is automatics. It's hard to find any business in any industry that is going to go against their own interests or spend a bunch of money and time on something that doesn't help them in any way.

Rainy D.'s Comment
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Great Rob. You think Im manly, i appreciate it lol

yes Prime is still testing on manuals. They originally projected it would end this past september, but it still see them out there testing. Many of the lease ops still have their manuals however most of the company drivers have already switched to autos. My 2016 stick will be taken from me in the coming months. :( All 2017 and newer are autos.

Bran009's Comment
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Rainy, are you lease or company? Original poster: I like the idea of learning on manual just incase, but with my research I've realized for most big companies it's becoming a moot point. I'm just guessing that it all has to do with insurance purposes.

G-Town's Comment
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Rainy, are you lease or company? Original poster: I like the idea of learning on manual just incase, but with my research I've realized for most big companies it's becoming a moot point. I'm just guessing that it all has to do with insurance purposes.

Rainy is a company driver and a trainer.

The push to auto-shift fleets is primarily about fuel savings. A 1% improvement can equate to millions of dollars in reduced costs for the larger carriers.

Dead Money's Comment
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I just had a conversation with someone not on the board and their suggestion was, when ready to learn manual, go back and obtain a cdl permit again, then practice on an available manual until ready to take the driving test in a manual.

For some reason that obvious solution didn’t creep into my mind.

I guess I was too busy seeing walls to notice the doorway.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Rob T.'s Comment
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I just had a conversation with someone not on the board and their suggestion was, when ready to learn manual, go back and obtain a cdl permit again, then practice on an available manual until ready to take the driving test in a manual.

For some reason that obvious solution didn’t creep into my mind.

I guess I was too busy seeing walls to notice the doorway.

Are you able to do that? I'd double check with the DMV in your state to see what They say, as they would know the best LEGAL way.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

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