Is The School Bus Stuff Really Necessary?
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Nope. bus, double/triples, tanker, hazmat are all seperate endorsements. You only need to do the ones required for the vehicle you want. someone can correct me.if im wrong, but i think you have to test in a bus to get that endorsement.
I originally took air brakes, general knowledge, combination vehicle , and tanker. i just recently added Hazmat and doubles/triples.
Although most will recommend getting the hazmat right away, i didnt want the added pressure going newly solo. Plus my company only does 3% hazmat sonnot a big deal.
Some companies may require hazmat from the beginning. My company had us test and get the permit in MO then transfer my license back to NJ. Hazmat had to be done in NJ anyway, so it wasnt something Prime had us do right away.
HAZMAT:
Hazardous Materials
Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations
Combination Vehicle:
A vehicle with two separate parts - the power unit (tractor) and the trailer. Tractor-trailers are considered combination vehicles.
Doubles:
Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.
Thanks Rainy! It's just one more test that I wouldn't use. All the others no problem.
I was wondering thw same thing, but was not sure. Thanks for clearing that up for me Rainy (I see you changed your pic)
My instructor (tech college 400-hr. program) advises this:
Tests: take air brakes and combos before gen. knowledge as the first 2 help with last.
Take all the tests for endorsements you want but do not add them to your CLP as they then have to test you on all to get CDL. (I would have to drive an hour or more to another school). Get them before 2020 when rules will change.
I recently got my CLP and have passed HazMat and (just today) Tanker test results just sitting on my file. Once I pass my CDL test the endorsements will be added. At least that is how I understand it.
While I don't really plan on doing much of either... one of my top choice companies and divisions wants it. Check the regs.! Lots of (not so nasty) things qualify as HazMat and not everything which qualifies as a Tanker load sloshes around in big long cylinders!
Just my plan. Your mileage may vary!
I think I will stop short of doubles and trips. but way to go Rainy!
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
HAZMAT:
Hazardous Materials
Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations
Doubles:
Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.
CLP:
Commercial Learner's Permit
Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.
Marc Lee, you are correct. I carry a lot of liquid in totes, such as cola syrup and juices. Because of that, Prime requires a tanker endorsement. One of our forum members shied away from companies who required this endorsement, not realizing the options it opens. Also, when I tested for the CDL , I did not have to test out on the tanker, but the endorsement was added to my license. I backed and road tested only the reefer , so not sure to what your instructor was referring.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Reefer:
A refrigerated trailer.
Also, when I tested for the CDL , I did not have to test out on the tanker, but the endorsement was added to my license. I backed and road tested only the reefer , so not sure to what your instructor was referring.
Rainy... just stumbled on this one again...
So it seems instructor was wrong and I may also have given the wrong impression.
What he told us in class was if we took the test and passed the HazMat test AND put the endorsement on our CLP then we would have to be "tested on HazMat" to get our CDL. He added that could not be done locally, we would have to go to Fox Valley Technical College about 2 hours away.
When I mentioned that at the DMV while getting my CDL and completing the HazMat application process the woman said she COULDN'T have applied the HazMat to my CLP. It can only be added to the CDL!
I know some States are different as far as how they do things. In IL I believe you pay (a lot) for the fingerprinting and background check before you get the endorsement. I think maybe even before you take the test. Here in WI you test, apply for the endorsement and then pay for fingerprinting and background check.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
HAZMAT:
Hazardous Materials
Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations
Dm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.DMV:
Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles
The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.
Reefer:
A refrigerated trailer.
CLP:
Commercial Learner's Permit
Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.
In Illinois you have to get the fingerprint and background test done first, then you get a letter in mail you take to DMV to take test.
Dm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.DMV:
Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles
The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.
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I was just wondering if by any chance anyone knows if the school stuff will be on the permit testing? I know that it is on the High Road training that I have been doing, but is it absolutely necessary to study for it if it isn't on the test?