Turning Radius For Truck With 53' Trailer (U-Turn)

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Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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Anyone know this?

Specifically, I have a lot that is 100' wide, if I put a driveway on each side and connect them in a giant U, could I easily drive in one side and out the other?

Big Scott (CFI Driver and's Comment
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Give me 80 acres and I'll turn this rig around. rofl-3.gif Truck and trailer is about 70 feet long. Pivot point is about 3 feet behind the nose of the trailer. If my calculations are correct the circumference of your arc is about 157 feet on the outside. I don't know if that would help. I think it might work. I think it could be done. I'm picturing doing a U turn around 6 trucks parked side by side.

Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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Give me 80 acres and I'll turn this rig around. rofl-3.gif Truck and trailer is about 70 feet long. Pivot point is about 3 feet behind the nose of the trailer. If my calculations are correct the circumference of your arc is about 157 feet on the outside. I don't know if that would help. I think it might work. I think it could be done. I'm picturing doing a U turn around 6 trucks parked side by side.

I think it should be plenty of room, but I have no experience, so...

There are trees on either side, so it would have to be completely within the 100'.

Old School's Comment
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I have a lot that is 100' wide, if I put a driveway on each side and connect them in a giant U, could I easily drive in one side and out the other?

I have been surprised a few times at how little space I needed to turn a truck around with a 53 foot trailer behind it. Don't waste your money on a U-shaped driveway though. It's not going to work like that. You can make those trailer tandems spin like a ballerina and turn around in a 100 foot space, but expecting the tandems to track along with your driveway is going to require a very wide driveway - it's going to look more like a parking lot than a driveway.

I don't know what kind of material you're thinking about for the driveway, but a standard 4" deep concrete driveway for automobiles will eventually break under the pressure of a loaded truck. If you're using rock or something similar you'll need to build a very solid base for it. None of that type work will come cheap.

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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I have a lot that is 100' wide, if I put a driveway on each side and connect them in a giant U, could I easily drive in one side and out the other?

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I have been surprised a few times at how little space I needed to turn a truck around with a 53 foot trailer behind it. Don't waste your money on a U-shaped driveway though. It's not going to work like that. You can make those trailer tandems spin like a ballerina and turn around in a 100 foot space, but expecting the tandems to track along with your driveway is going to require a very wide driveway - it's going to look more like a parking lot than a driveway.

I don't know what kind of material you're thinking about for the driveway, but a standard 4" deep concrete driveway for automobiles will eventually break under the pressure of a loaded truck. If you're using rock or something similar you'll need to build a very solid base for it. None of that type work will come cheap.

Yeah driveway is not really the right word. I figure 2 to 3 inch stone about 4 inches thick, 100' x 80' should give me plenty of room.

I'm looking at paying to park, or I can buy a lot (100' x 200') with a 32' x 24' garage with electric and water. If I'm paying a monthly payment, might as well be paying it on something that will appreciate in value, rather than stuff someone else's wallet. The payment wouldn't be a lot more than I would be paying to park.

When I retire, I'll build a small house on it and sell it. Or maybe I'll move there and sell my house. Or maybe my wife will have kicked me out by then, and I'll have somewhere to go. LOL

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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I think I would be empty most of the time, but possibly loaded. I'll wait to see how often I'm loaded before putting down stone. If I'm loaded very often, I would have to dig down and put larger stone for the base, then the 2 to 3 inch stone

Patrick C.'s Comment
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With as close as you are to greenpac I don't foresee you being loaded to often. More than likely you will deliver your scrap and go home from there. If you get preplanned to pick up at greenpac when coming off hometime you can always drop your trailer at greenpac before going home. You would bobtail home then back to greenpac.

Bobtail:

"Bobtailing" means you are driving a tractor without a trailer attached.

Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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With as close as you are to greenpac I don't foresee you being loaded to often. More than likely you will deliver your scrap and go home from there. If you get preplanned to pick up at greenpac when coming off hometime you can always drop your trailer at greenpac before going home. You would bobtail home then back to greenpac.

If that is the case, I won't need to park anywhere. I can put the truck in my driveway

Bobtail:

"Bobtailing" means you are driving a tractor without a trailer attached.

Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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I'm still tempted to buy the lot. It's a nice little lot out in the country

Patrick C.'s Comment
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I would come up with at least 2 spots. One for being loaded or even having a trailer and one for being bobtail. I wouldn't jump on anything of a permanent nature. Just get your ducks lined up. I don't go to the northeast much, but I know we deliver scrap to greenpac/norpac and we take loads out of there. With as close as you live to it, I would almost guarantee that often you will feel like you are running dedicated for them. I have been told of 2 spots that we do drop trailers at up there as a drop lot. A good many of our drop lots that I have come across are trailer repair shops or tire shops. Wolding gives them so much business in exchange for using their property as a drop lot. Win/win. The trailer repair place gets steady business and we get a place to drop trailers. The only downside is, a drop trailer is fair game. It is what it is. You drop a trailer just be prepared for it to not be there when you are heading back out. I have been sent on more than one wild goose chase looking for an MT after coming off hometime.

Bobtail:

"Bobtailing" means you are driving a tractor without a trailer attached.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

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