Supreme Court Rules In Favor Of Truckers

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Keith A.'s Comment
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If it's okay I'm curious, Brett and G-Town, I see you two talk about this most often... I'm part of the generation that supposedly exhibits this... ... I guess "gimme" mentality? The "I want success but dont want to invest in myself to achieve it" mentality? But I don't see it myself and I'm honest to god curious whether it's just venting or if there's a foundation to it. I'm asking here because this forum is chock full of level headed people who at least won't take my head off. But also lots of different walks of life and view points.

Feel free to delete this if it's too off topic from the post itself, Brett, but I also don't think it's relevant enough to the forum itself for its own topic.

CK's Comment
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CK in the training diaries just stated Prime SLC is pushing leasing harder than I experienced.

Today there was another example of this. We came back from a break to find a slide advertising Success Leasing on the big wall TV they use for presentations and videos. I can't remember exactly what was on the slide, but there were lots of $'s. Later, there was another slide when we were doing the automatic transmission class that had contact phone numbers for the specific vendor representatives at success Leasing.

There is quite a bit of talk about how it's an amazing thing that Prime does - allowing newbies to lease a truck right out of the gate. That was a classroom instructor that said that. Sadly, I'm sure a handful of the good folks in my class will jump right into a lease and drown in it. They may have been fine as a company driver, but when you add everything else into it, it doesn't makes sense for a brand new driver to get into it.

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CK's Comment
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Although one person told me there is now a non compete clause, i have not seen that myself.

Yes, there is. It was part of the forms we signed during CBT.

My class is about 15 or so, btw.

G-Town's Comment
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Keith asking a fair question:

If it's okay I'm curious, Brett and G-Town, I see you two talk about this most often... I'm part of the generation that supposedly exhibits this... ... I guess "gimme" mentality? The "I want success but dont want to invest in myself to achieve it" mentality? But I don't see it myself and I'm honest to god curious whether it's just venting or if there's a foundation to it. I'm asking here because this forum is chock full of level headed people who at least won't take my head off. But also lots of different walks of life and view points.

Feel free to delete this if it's too off topic from the post itself, Brett, but I also don't think it's relevant enough to the forum itself for its own topic.

I could write pages, upon pages in response to your question Keith. Like I said politics is something I usually keep to myself...but in this case I had to offer my opinion.

I’m glad that you do not fall into the category of the entitled. I cannot think of one successful truck driver or person for that matter who believed the world owed them a living. That’s a fact.

My simple answer to your question...the attitude of entitlement has existed since Biblical times. “Kane and Abel” is an obvious example. It is not a generational thing per say, I have witnessed many examples, old, young and in between. Just read some of the posts our friend Todd wrote in this forum...he is closer to my age than your’s.

The problem as I see it; this mindset is more frequently placated, accepted, and rewarded more so now, then it was when I was in my twenties. I never wanted a free ride and was taught not to expect one. And we didn’t get one...

I just believe it’s different now...all you need to-do is read some of the examples that come through this forum who believe a trucking company should just hand them the keys without any reasonable proof they can handle the responsibility of professional driving. It’s sad.

Glad you are not like that Keith...it offers hope for older folks like me that beneath the drek, there is still a solid foundation of work ethic within the younger generation.

Peace.

Jason P.'s Comment
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Heard the saying "Squeaky wheel gets the grease" or something? Folks cry loud and long enough- someone will throw money at them to shut them up; but then they will NEVER shut up.

Unfortunate fact of life.

A bit off topic; but what DO company's do with all the trucks when they are 3+ years old? I keep hearing/reading about how big carriers keep their fleets current and I assumed that the lease scam was just a way to off load used equipment.

Rainy D.'s Comment
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Heard the saying "Squeaky wheel gets the grease" or something? Folks cry loud and long enough- someone will throw money at them to shut them up; but then they will NEVER shut up.

Unfortunate fact of life.

A bit off topic; but what DO company's do with all the trucks when they are 3+ years old? I keep hearing/reading about how big carriers keep their fleets current and I assumed that the lease scam was just a way to off load used equipment.

No, the companies lease brand new trucks and around 400k miles or 3 yrs the trucks at prime get sold as used through Pedigree Truck sales. They sell the old trailers too.

Seabee-J's Comment
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I feel you Keith , I believe every generation complains and disparages the one behind it for some reason or another .Its the same old about how WHEN I WAS young I had to walk 15 miles in the snow to school uphill both ways . We have it in the Navy the way the old Chiefs go BACK in my day , its always harder and people were so much more hard working . The greatest gen complained about the Boomers boomers complain about Gen X and so on . Sorry guys rant over didn't mean to go off the rails but he made a good observation .

G-Town's Comment
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I feel you Keith , I believe every generation complains and disparages the one behind it for some reason or another .Its the same old about how WHEN I WAS young I had to walk 15 miles in the snow to school uphill both ways . We have it in the Navy the way the old Chiefs go BACK in my day , its always harder and people were so much more hard working . The greatest gen complained about the Boomers boomers complain about Gen X and so on . Sorry guys rant over didn't mean to go off the rails but he made a good observation .

Seabee did you read the details of my response to Keith?

My reply did not attach singular blame on a specific generation...quite the contrary.

Seabee-J's Comment
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Hey G-Town , I saw it a bit after , I was just making a general statement . There are lots of exceptions to the rule but I'm in general agreement with what you said . smile.gif . I'm just sympathetic to younger guys starting out. . I come from trades background so I've heard it all .

G-Town's Comment
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Hey Gtown , I saw it a bit after , I was just making a general statement . There are lots of exceptions to the rule but I'm in general agreement with what you said . smile.gif . I'm just sympathetic to younger guys starting out. . I come from trades background so I've heard it all .

Okay, got it. Thanks.

I honestly think there are many fantastic examples in this forum representing the younger group in their twenties, Keith being one of them.

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