Per Diem During New Driver Training?

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Land of the Free's Comment
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Newly licensed greenhorn driver here. I would first like to say how awesome the truckingtruth.com community is. I've lurked on this site as a guest now for about 3 years, reading and learning from the driver's perspective the various nuances involved with the trucking industry, and again this community and the repository of information it holds is good stuff. Now for my first question:

As a prefatory matter, I haven't been able to find anything searching the site that directly addresses my question, and so I hope I don't get flamed, but here goes: I'm about to attend orientation with Shaffer. My OTR type training with a company trainer will be for 8 weeks (4 weeks, then 3-4 days home time, follow by 4 more weeks. Should I be expecting or ask for per diem on top of my training pay, or will I need to just plan on itemizing those 8 weeks next tax season? I realize there's a difference of opinion when it comes to per diem or not, but my question mainly has to do with whether a trainee who is away over night for 8 weeks is at least entitled to receive it on top of his/her base pay (whether or not the trainee wants it with pay)? I emailed my recruiter, but haven't yet received a reply.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Per Diem:

Getting paid per diem means getting a portion of your salary paid to you without taxes taken out. It's technically classified as a meal and expense reimbursement.

Truck drivers and others who travel for a living get large tax deductions for meal expenses. The Government set up per diem pay as a way to reimburse some of the taxes you pay with each paycheck instead of making you wait until tax filing season.

Getting per diem pay means a driver will get a larger paycheck each week but a smaller tax return at tax time.

We have a ton of information on our wiki page on per diem pay

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Rick S.'s Comment
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There's no more "itemizing" for company/employee drivers. With the new tax code, things work a little different.

You will likely not get per-diem pay during, depending on how the company pays during the training period.

Your recruiter may not know the answer to the question, and it's probably something that's low in the list of priorities to worry about during training.

Rick

Pete's Comment
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Congratulations on graduating school. I think I've seen some of your posts elsewhere, likely on a drivers YouTube channel. Wish I could offer help you asked for. No need to worry about people tearing you down here though.

Good luck.

Tractor Man's Comment
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Trucking Companies don't pay Per Diem , over and above your wages/salary, as many other employers do. If you choose Per Diem with your Trucking Company, it will be subtracted from your cpm pay.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

Per Diem:

Getting paid per diem means getting a portion of your salary paid to you without taxes taken out. It's technically classified as a meal and expense reimbursement.

Truck drivers and others who travel for a living get large tax deductions for meal expenses. The Government set up per diem pay as a way to reimburse some of the taxes you pay with each paycheck instead of making you wait until tax filing season.

Getting per diem pay means a driver will get a larger paycheck each week but a smaller tax return at tax time.

We have a ton of information on our wiki page on per diem pay

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Solo's Comment
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Trucking Companies don't pay Per Diem , over and above your wages/salary, as many other employers do. If you choose Per Diem with your Trucking Company, it will be subtracted from your cpm pay.

Mine does, and it's not subtracted out of my % pay.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

Per Diem:

Getting paid per diem means getting a portion of your salary paid to you without taxes taken out. It's technically classified as a meal and expense reimbursement.

Truck drivers and others who travel for a living get large tax deductions for meal expenses. The Government set up per diem pay as a way to reimburse some of the taxes you pay with each paycheck instead of making you wait until tax filing season.

Getting per diem pay means a driver will get a larger paycheck each week but a smaller tax return at tax time.

We have a ton of information on our wiki page on per diem pay

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Tractor Man's Comment
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Mine does, and it's not subtracted out of my % pay.

Thanks Solo. I generalized there. I should have said, The overwhelming majority of Trucking Companies.

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Solo's Comment
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Mine does, and it's not subtracted out of my % pay.

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Thanks Solo. I generalized there. I should have said, The overwhelming majority of Trucking Companies.

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That's my understanding also.

I'd be willing to throw my unprofessional tax/trucking company .02 in and say that per diem does help the driver, and of course it helps the company in a lot of ways, but my understanding is that some offer it still as a recruitment tool.

Either way, I look forward to seeing it impacts for next years filing.

Per Diem:

Getting paid per diem means getting a portion of your salary paid to you without taxes taken out. It's technically classified as a meal and expense reimbursement.

Truck drivers and others who travel for a living get large tax deductions for meal expenses. The Government set up per diem pay as a way to reimburse some of the taxes you pay with each paycheck instead of making you wait until tax filing season.

Getting per diem pay means a driver will get a larger paycheck each week but a smaller tax return at tax time.

We have a ton of information on our wiki page on per diem pay

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