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Robsteeler's Comment
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Thanks Bobcat. Someone clipped my quote to, I guess show what a lazy sob whiner I am, but thank you for actually discussing it with me. It's hard not to be disgruntled (to answer the other person's apparent concern) when you're in orientation with people who started with you, have the same experience, same account, etc. Everything is the same, except they're getting .47 per mile, and I'm getting .41. that annoys me every payday. They also got (we were paid a daily rate in training for 90 days) $20 per day more than me. I didn't understand, and no one could tell me why, and said there was nothing to do about it. They all blamed the recruiter and said "well, that's what their recruiter got them for their contract."

What? It never made sense to me then, and still doesn't. I'm sorry, but it really affects my attitude, because it doesn't seem like anyone cares that I'll never catch up to their pay and we have the same experience.

This person seems to think I'm not working hard enough. I'm not sure what else I can do. In the past 7 days I've used up my entire 70 hrs. Worked off of recap hours today and I'm taking a reset while my truck gets looked at. I don't know how much harder I can work. I'd really like specific advice instead of general platitudes. Some days I absolutely love my job, but there are a few things that stick in my craw, and this is one.

I'm perfectly willing to need any advice about how I can be more efficient. I know there are ways, because I've definitely become much more efficient since I started. If this is one of those things that is only gonna happen over time and experience, then I accept that, but if there are specific ways you know, then please share this information. No disrespect intended to any of you guys. I've been told that I have a harsh writing style and someone may take this as an insult or disrespect, but it's not intended to be. I just wanted to explain to the person who wrote the other thread, WHY I was annoyed by my pay.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Robsteeler's Comment
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If I remember right you had a couple small accidents right? You will probably have to wait to they are a year old before some companies will hire you.

If CPM is your biggest concern linehaul maybe your best bet. I started at 55 cpm 1.5 years ago and am 65 cpm now. In September I will get my 2 year raise and be around 70 cpm . My new run is at least 2,800 miles a week as well so I'm not trading miles for CPM.

What companies do linehaul? That's like a dedicated account between specific places?

Linehaul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

Rob T.'s Comment
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Line haul is primarily LTL companies. Old dominion, UPS, Fed ex, Estes, saia etc. Typically pull a set of double (28 foot trailers in most states) from one terminal to another. With most runs you're home daily however most runs are at night especially starting out. Very predictable income. The downside is once you have enough seniority for an assigned route you'll be stuck on that one for 6 months or a year. Boring, but you can make excellent money.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

Line Haul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.
PackRat's Comment
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Thanks Bobcat. Someone clipped my quote to, I guess show what a lazy sob whiner I am, but thank you for actually discussing it with me. It's hard not to be disgruntled (to answer the other person's apparent concern) when you're in orientation with people who started with you, have the same experience, same account, etc. Everything is the same, except they're getting .47 per mile, and I'm getting .41. that annoys me every payday. They also got (we were paid a daily rate in training for 90 days) $20 per day more than me. I didn't understand, and no one could tell me why, and said there was nothing to do about it. They all blamed the recruiter and said "well, that's what their recruiter got them for their contract."

What? It never made sense to me then, and still doesn't. I'm sorry, but it really affects my attitude, because it doesn't seem like anyone cares that I'll never catch up to their pay and we have the same experience.

This person seems to think I'm not working hard enough. I'm not sure what else I can do. In the past 7 days I've used up my entire 70 hrs. Worked off of recap hours today and I'm taking a reset while my truck gets looked at. I don't know how much harder I can work. I'd really like specific advice instead of general platitudes. Some days I absolutely love my job, but there are a few things that stick in my craw, and this is one.

I'm perfectly willing to need any advice about how I can be more efficient. I know there are ways, because I've definitely become much more efficient since I started. If this is one of those things that is only gonna happen over time and experience, then I accept that, but if there are specific ways you know, then please share this information. No disrespect intended to any of you guys. I've been told that I have a harsh writing style and someone may take this as an insult or disrespect, but it's not intended to be. I just wanted to explain to the person who wrote the other thread, WHY I was annoyed by my pay.

So instead of playing word games, why did you not address Old School on the topic he wrote, the one you keep referencing, Robsteeler?

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Robsteeler's Comment
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Because he didn't mention my name, and it wasn't an attack on me. I just felt like he thought I was lazy or something based on the verbiage used. I don't know. Sometimes the written word is much easier to misinterpret without the visual cues of actually talking to someone. I haven't really discussed much with him, so I can't read his personality.

PackRat's Comment
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confused.gif After reading the useful articles he regularly composes, the sage advice he provides to others questions and his observations from the driver’s seat in general, would you not agree that one of Old School’s qualities would be that he is indeed helpful?

Robsteeler's Comment
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I have been LAX on reading articles. When I first got on here, obviously I read the study material and all the stuff related to questions I had at the time. I just read his clock management post and it was great. Unfortunately, I can't take advantage of some of the nuances at my company. I love my company in some ways, but there are a few things that really get under my skin. I just figure I'll stay there though, because I'm not sure if another company will be any different. Incompetence is one of my biggest pet peeves. It seems that some of our planners to me are incompetent. This is probably my biggest issue. I keep hearing excuses when I sit for hours waiting on a load that freight is light. Really? A mega carrier doesn't have freight to pull? Did you ever have a job that annoyed you even though you liked a lot of aspects of it? That's how I feel right now. Also, they've messed up my pay for the last three weeks to the tune of almost a thousand dollars total. Still no answer. I'd go O/O for just the fact that I could pick and choose my loads, set up my entire weeks pickups and deliveries at once, and not have to deal with planners. Unfortunately, I don't want to be responsible for the costs associated with this business on my own. Remember, I don't like incompetence especially my own! 😂

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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I would be a bit disgruntled if people in the same orientation were paid more, if there were no clear reason such as experience

Bruce K.'s Comment
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Robsteeler,

Hey, buddy, we both drive for the same company and I know not everything in our world is perfect. Instead of "incompetence" maybe we could use the word "imperfect". Everyone is imperfect. My imperfections affect the company, their imperfections affect me.

When you move to a new company the first thing that goes in your suitcase are your issues. It's like playing musical chairs. Everybody has frustrations with their job, no matter what profession. Just keep your head on straight, give it some time and see if your thinking changes. You and I make the same CPM , but it takes time to move up. My friend down in Georgia is driving for .29 CPM. That's the guy I feel for, but he's got this steely determination to stick it out for a year before considering a change. I have to give him his due respect for making a plan and sticking to it.

If you have any other things you'd like to discuss with another company driver, I'd be happy to act as a sounding board. Hang in there!

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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I would be a bit disgruntled if people in the same orientation were paid more, if there were no clear reason such as experience

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