Break Down/HOS Violation.

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Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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I was on the side of the road for over 10 hours. Ended up with negative 8 hours drive time by the time I finally got to the nearest parking, a truck stop.

I had reserved a spot earlier in the day, and when I got here somebody had parked across from it so close I couldn’t get in. The famous “made their own spot”. Manager came out and woke him up and made him move so I could back in.

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Rob T.'s Comment
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I'd suggest talking to your DM and see what they suggest in the future. I'm also hourly and although we have nearly all daycabs we do have a handful of sleepers. If in the sleeper cab that day we log "sleeper" and then the company will pay us our normal hourly rate for those hours as well. Only requirement is we document why we were sleeper as opposed to on duty or off duty. Wolding has their way of doing things however the way we do it is beneficial for both the driver and the company. You're still getting paid but in this case you would have had a full clock to roll with. You also wouldn't have burned up hours towards your 70. I'd be interested to hear what they say.

Glad you made it to the nearest place safe

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Bobcat_Bob's Comment
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I think Old Dominion would have had you towed either to a terminal or to a hotel, our "central dispatchers" who are at the corporate level instead of a terminal would have told us what they want us to do in that situation.

I agree with Rob T check with H.O. Wolding and see how they want it handled.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Turtle's Comment
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After the obligatory 10-15 mins on-duty time for contacting road assist, I would've had myself in sleeper berth for sure. Totally legal once you're relieved of all duties and able to rest. You can choose to rest right on the side of the road in your truck.

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Rob T.'s Comment
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After the obligatory 10-15 mins on-duty time for contacting road assist, I would've had myself in sleeper berth for sure. Totally legal once you're relieved of all duties and able to rest. You can choose to rest right on the side of the road in your truck.

I think he stayed on duty because he's paid hourly on that Northeast regional gig Wolding has

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Turtle's Comment
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I think he stayed on duty because he's paid hourly on that Northeast regional gig Wolding has

Yup I understand, and obviously he'd need to log it however Wolding wanted.

However, what I mean is:

He's going to be sitting unpaid for 10 hrs regardless of whether it's on the side of the road now or later after being repaired or towed to the truck stop.

Of course, I'm sure at the time he didn't know he be sitting for 10 hours either.

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

Rob T.'s Comment
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I think he stayed on duty because he's paid hourly on that Northeast regional gig Wolding has

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Yup I understand, and obviously he'd need to log it however Wolding wanted.

However, what I mean is:

He's going to be sitting unpaid for 10 hrs regardless of whether it's on the side of the road now or later after being repaired or towed to the truck stop.

Of course, I'm sure at the time he didn't know he be sitting for 10 hours either.

Very good point, I look forward to hearing how they would want it logged in the future. I'm not saying grumpy did anything wrong by any means, but this is one reason many companies don't pay hourly. He lost 10 hours of productivity that had he been paid mileage would have been logged differently and allowed him to turn more miles for the week to help himself and the company. It amazes me how long some of these repairs take, or even for roadside to show up! In my experience roadside always tells me "ETA hour and a half". 2 to 3 hours later they roll up and then have to go back to the shop for tools to fix the problem.

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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Sorry guys. I just woke up. Lol

That is exactly what safety told me to do. On duty and violate to get to a safe haven. We are not allowed to sleep on the side of the road in any case.

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