Dump Truck Driving

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Bruce K.'s Comment
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A few questions about driving a dump truck.

What is the upside/downside of driving a dump truck all day compared with driving a tractor trailer? Are the issues of being an O/O any different in the dump truck world? Any less risky? Is driving dump truck harder on the driver's body? Is the sleep apnea/CPAC issue the same? And HOS regulations are not applicable to dump truck drivers, correct?

Sleep Apnea:

A physical disorder in which you have pauses in your breathing, or take shallow breaths, during sleep. These pauses can last anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. Normal breathing will usually resume, sometimes with a loud choking sound or snort.

In obstructive sleep apnea, your airways become blocked or collapse during sleep, causing the pauses and shallow breathing.

It is a chronic condition that will require ongoing management. It affects about 18 million people in the U.S.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Rob T.'s Comment
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Is the sleep apnea/CPAC issue the same? And HOS regulations are not applicable to dump truck drivers, correct?

Yes cpap usage is still mandatory as you still need to have a medical card. Dump trucks also need to abide by HOS. Not sure about the other 2 questions, but I dont think there would be much money in dump truck as I see alot of them hiring for $18 an hr in my area. We had a member who drives dump truck let me try to find their post about it.

Sleep Apnea:

A physical disorder in which you have pauses in your breathing, or take shallow breaths, during sleep. These pauses can last anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. Normal breathing will usually resume, sometimes with a loud choking sound or snort.

In obstructive sleep apnea, your airways become blocked or collapse during sleep, causing the pauses and shallow breathing.

It is a chronic condition that will require ongoing management. It affects about 18 million people in the U.S.

CPAP:

Constant Positive Airway Pressure

CPAP is a breathing assist device which is worn over the mouth or nose. It provides nighttime relief for individuals who suffer from Sleep Apnea.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Bobcat_Bob's Comment
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My grandfather did it for almost 50 years, you will not HOS rules because you are usually within 100 miles. It is very seasonal and unpredictable if your company has no projects your at home. Dump O/O is no less risky if fact probably more risky as you have a short window to make money.

My grandfather worked during construction season, then found a part time job in thr off season.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Rob T.'s Comment
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you will not HOS rules because you are usually within 100 miles.

if you go by the 100 mile air radius I believe you're limited to 12 hours per day total. Must clock in and out daily

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Bobcat_Bob's Comment
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if you go by the 100 mile air radius I believe you're limited to 12 hours per day total. Must clock in and out daily

Correct and you still have to take 10 hours off duty. You do not have to keep a detailed log you just record your hours instead.

Rob T.'s Comment
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Minnis B discussed his Dump truck job. Here is the Accident I referred to in my comment.

Ryan M.'s Comment
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“if you go by the 100 mile air radius I believe you're limited to 12 hours per day total. Must clock in and out daily”

Hello sir what is the typical day for a Gravel hauler, how many days u work, if ur cdl a holder and no experience, will they willing to train?? im in Regina Saskatchewan Canada..

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Minnis B.'s Comment
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A few questions about driving a dump truck.

What is the upside/downside of driving a dump truck all day compared with driving a tractor trailer? Are the issues of being an O/O any different in the dump truck world? Any less risky? Is driving dump truck harder on the driver's body? Is the sleep apnea/CPAC issue the same? And HOS regulations are not applicable to dump truck drivers, correct?

Yeah I got a couple years experience on both sides of the fence. I’ll answer what I can for you.

1. The upside of the dump truck is it’s much easier to maneuver in tight quarters, that’s pretty much it. The downsides are you are much more top heavy which in my opinion makes the truck harder to control on narrow 2 lane roads. You have a much higher chance of being overweight as most quarries/asphalt plants etc will load you to 80,000 lbs gross and have your truck listed as a tractor trailer in their computer system to avoid direct fines. Dump trucks also ride much more roughly especially empty.

2. I wouldn’t recommend O/O with a dump truck. As was already mentioned it can be very seasonal but also you’re very limited to what you can haul ie dirt/sand/gravel/coal/asphalt and that’s about it. At least being an O/O with a tractor you can hook to pretty much any kind of trailer and haul pretty much anything you like. Of course I don’t recommend going O/O in any truck.

3. I do feel like the dump truck was much harder on my body personally. Imagine being in the ring with mike Tyson for 12 hours a day. That’s pretty much how I felt.

4. I’m not sure on the CPAP issue because I’ve never been diagnosed with sleep apnea.

5. As was already said yes you’re exempt from keeping a detailed logbook BUT we have a sheet of paper that covers an entire month that asks your start time, your stop time, total hours worked, and how many total hours were driven. Also asks for company headquarters.

If you have any more questions I’d be more than happy to help ya out.

Logbook:

A written or electronic record of a driver's duty status which must be maintained at all times. The driver records the amount of time spent driving, on-duty not driving, in the sleeper berth, or off duty. The enforcement of the Hours Of Service Rules (HOS) are based upon the entries put in a driver's logbook.

Sleep Apnea:

A physical disorder in which you have pauses in your breathing, or take shallow breaths, during sleep. These pauses can last anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. Normal breathing will usually resume, sometimes with a loud choking sound or snort.

In obstructive sleep apnea, your airways become blocked or collapse during sleep, causing the pauses and shallow breathing.

It is a chronic condition that will require ongoing management. It affects about 18 million people in the U.S.

CPAP:

Constant Positive Airway Pressure

CPAP is a breathing assist device which is worn over the mouth or nose. It provides nighttime relief for individuals who suffer from Sleep Apnea.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Ryan M.'s Comment
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How many days do u work as a dump truck driver?? and ok so its usually 12 hrs. a day when u work, how much is the pay and what if ur a cdl a (class 1a in my case), are they willing to train?? thanks..

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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How many days do u work as a dump truck driver?? and ok so its usually 12 hrs. a day when u work, how much is the pay and what if ur a cdl a (class 1a in my case), are they willing to train?? thanks..

Ryan,

Not sure if Minnis saw your reply, but here's a bit of what I know:

Depending on what you haul, it's LONG days 'in season' (ie: paving season, here....March through October/November.) Pay is around $25.usd/hour, so we've heard; county may pay more.

My husband was an asphalt hauler (tanker driver) for a few years, and worked side by side with many dump truck drivers in the paving industry. We would pump off the 6122 or 3257 asphalt into HUGE tanks at the paver's facilities, and the dump trucks would be LINED UP ready to receive their 'mix' of product, dumped straight down into their catch/trailer. Some were even doubles; but that probably takes more endorsements and training.

Many of the dump truck guys we came across, worked for the 'counties' we delivered to. I'm not sure of the set up in Canada, but maybe 'provinces' would be something you could look into, for training? That's how they do it here, in Ohio.

I hope this helps a bit, and finds you well. Don't forget usn's here at TT, let us know how it goes, eh?

~ Anne ~

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

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