Getting Hired With A Ticket And Misdemeanor

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Brett Aquila's Comment
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The ticket is 11 months old (about to be one year in a couple weeks) and the misdemeanor is 8 months

It's also the fact that both of these happened within the past year. That's a big red flag. People normally don't change their behaviors like flipping a switch. Companies will maybe look the other way over one minor recent discretion, but a misdemeanor for obstructing justice and a reckless driving ticket within the past year when you're looking for a safety-related job where innocent families are at the mercy of your decision making is a lot to ask.

All you can do is apply like crazy everywhere imaginable and keep your fingers crossed. It only takes one company to give you an opportunity, but you're going to hear "no" an awful lot in the process.

Trucking is not a 2nd chance type of industry where people get the opportunity to start over and live their lives better. The industry likes to see a solid employment, driving, and criminal history for the past several years.

Bird-One's Comment
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Hey Brett, guessing you put that "Editors note" there. Just wanted to clarify the laws vary by state. Nobody should be doing 15 over, but in Illinois, from what I'm reading 15 miles an hour over in Illinois is not considered reckless driving.

So in some states yes it is. In others no it's not.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Hey Brett, guessing you put that "Editors note" there. Just wanted to clarify the laws vary by state. Nobody should be doing 15 over, but in Illinois, from what I'm reading 15 miles an hour over in Illinois is not considered reckless driving.

So in some states yes it is. In others no it's not.

What we care about is the effect it has on your trucking career, and every company will consider that reckless driving. That doesn't mean no one will hire you, but it means you won't get hired by most companies. So I'm not too concerned with what the states consider it.

Chief Brody's Comment
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I have seen this comment several times about 15 mph over being reckless driving. Specifically, Bird One's comment that "laws vary by state."

This is how I understand the issue and Rick, Brett or others can correct me if I'm wrong.

It involves the relation between state traffic laws and the FMCSA regulations regarding "serious traffic offenses" and "disqualifying offenses." Even if state law does not define speeding in excess of 15 mph over the limit as reckless driving, the FMCSA regulations consider it a "serious traffic offense" in the same category as reckless driving. So for all practical purposes, it's reckless driving. So is making erratic lane changes and following too closely, which are both rather subjective tickets for LEO to issue. I saw a tanker truck make a quick lane change the other day. A LEO having a bad day could have easily pulled him over and ticketed him for an erratic lane change.

FMCSA Disqualifying Offenses

Note that the FMCSA regulations don't affect your state issued CDL license. Two tickets for speeding more than 15 mph over the limit does not result in a suspension of your CDL license. Rather the regulations state:

An employer must not knowingly allow, require, permit, or authorize a driver who is disqualified to drive a CMV.

Two tickets for more than 15 mph over the limit in three years requires a 60-day suspension by the employer.

Jrod has posted the following link several time regarding minimum qualifications for drivers which tracks the "serious offenses" and "disqualifying offenses" under the FMCSA regulations.

Jrod Minimum Hiring Qualifications

Thus, a trucking company's concern is not how the offense is treated under state law. Rather, their concern is the FMCSA regulations that require suspension of their driver's qualification to drive a truck and therefore, is an indicator of poor driving.

Also of note are the disqualifying offenses related to railroad crossings, which require a 60-day suspension on the first offense. And as one experienced driver learned recently, unfortunate timing in approaching a railroad crossing can result in a railroad crossing related traffic ticket.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

CMV:

Commercial Motor Vehicle

A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

  • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
  • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
  • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
  • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
  • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

MVR:

Motor Vehicle Record

An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Rob T.'s Comment
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Nice Hat Rob D!

So for all practical purposes, it's reckless driving. So is making erratic lane changes and following too closely, which are both rather subjective tickets for LEO to issue. I saw a tanker truck make a quick lane change the other day. A LEO having a bad day could have easily pulled him over and ticketed him for an erratic lane change.

it seems there are many laws that leave it up to the officers discretion but I agree, regardless of what the law says going 15 mph over IS reckless.

Also of note are the disqualifying offenses related to railroad crossings, which require a 60-day suspension on the first offense. And as one experienced driver learned recently, unfortunate timing in approaching a railroad crossing can result in a railroad crossing related traffic ticket.

railroad crossing violations are a HUGE deal, rightfully so. Even if you fail to slow down while approaching if you're not required to stop can result in a 60 day MINIMUM CDL suspension. I seen a story a couple days about a truck they believe was trying to beat a train and caused a 15 railcar derailment in Colorado. Fortunately our legal system gives you the opportunity to fight charges. With any conviction that results in a CDL suspension I would believe it is very difficult to get hired anywhere for a couple years after reinstatement.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

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