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John M.'s Comment
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Does anyone know if hills brothers does a hair drug test. Just wondering. I'm going to be going to cdl school soon and they might be where I would want to apply to.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Old School's Comment
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John, ask your recruiter.

Old School's Comment
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Why would you risk your chances at a rewarding career like this? Don't waste your time and money going to CDL school when you can't pass a drug test. One failed test and you're done. Here's my advice.

1) Get clean.

2) Stay clean.

3) Attend Paid CDL Training Programs

That's a simple plan and strategy for rookie success.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Rick S.'s Comment
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Why would you risk your chances at a rewarding career like this? Don't waste your time and money going to CDL school when you can't pass a drug test. One failed test and you're done. Here's my advice.

1) Get clean.

2) Stay clean.

3) Attend Paid CDL Training Programs

That's a simple plan and strategy for rookie success.

As Old School says (and OS is never wrong) - if there's a question about being able to pass ANY DRUG - don't put yourself in a position to FAIL ONE.

KISS OF DEATH in this business - especially for newcomers.

Also sad that someone would have to determine which company they go with for a career starter - based on WHAT KIND of drug test they use.

Without getting into details about which particular substance you're worried about - or what your using patterns were, put AT LEAST SIX MONTHS OF TOTAL ABSTINENCE BEHIND YOU, and they it won't be concern either way. If you cannot put together six months clean, perhaps this IS NOT THE PROFESSION FOR YOU.

This is not to "sit in judgement" - just a cold hard FACT.

Best of luck to you...

Rick

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
John M.'s Comment
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I'm not a drug addict. I used and oil for pain because I had knee surgery. I don't like taking narcotics because they make me sick . That was the reason why I asked.

John M.'s Comment
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I used cbd oil

PJ's Comment
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As I understand cbd it does not contain thc. Thc is the part that makes people high, and is the part looked for in drug tests

Rick S.'s Comment
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As I understand cbd it does not contain thc. Thc is the part that makes people high, and is the part looked for in drug tests

Depending on where you get the CBD - there might be trace amounts of THC in it. It is not very well regulated at this point - it is considered a "nutritional supplement" for the most part, so it's not like pharmaceutical FDA drugs.

There is a slight chance, with extended use, depending on how much trace THC is involved - that a hair test (or even urine) "might" trip on it. There's an article about a trucker SUING a CBD manufacturer for dropping hot on a random after purchasing what was advertised as 0% THC: https://www.ttnews.com/articles/fired-truck-driver-sues-cannabidiol-company-after-using-product

CBD And Drug Testing - Quest Diagnostics

Another thing to consider (from the linked article):

It is important to remember that for federally-mandated drug tests, the use of CBD or “medical marijuana” would not be considered an alternative medical explanation for the positive test result. Moreover, as a Schedule I substance, CBD remains illegal at the Federal level. While there are some states that permit the sale of CBD, many of these states only permit relatively low levels of THC in the CBD product.

Yet another article on CBD and trucking.

(semi)Apologies to John M - typically when folks show up asking about drug tests - it's because they are concerned about FAILING THEM FOR USING DRUGS. So absent DETAILS of what they're concerned about, we immediately go to: "drugs are bad m'kay".

CBD Oil is somewhat of a "grey area" where the regs are concerned. Not to argue the validity of it (or even medical weed) in treatment of pain and other medical conditions. CBD (and weed, med or otherwise) are FEDERALLY BANNED for safety sensitive positions (DOT).

In the "better safe than sorry" view - discontinuing use and waiting awhile (typically 6 months) should clear you. At issue is - if you trip a positive, even bringing in your CBD bottle may (or may not) convince the tester that you weren't just using weed, and for the most part - employers will not be willing to risk the liability.

So yes - you ARE at risk for a positive - and if that's TRULY A CONCERN, you are best to discontinue use and wait for a while before considering testing ANYWHERE.

While the GREAT DEBATE about the "lack of harm" of weed, or medicinal uses of THC/CBD will go on for the future and there are demonstrable benefits (and personally, I have no problem with it, even though as a "recovering individual" I would choose NOT to partake) - even if the Federal Gov made recreational weed use legal nationwide - I doubt we will EVER SEE IT LEGAL FOR DOT DRIVERS/PILOTS/ETC.

Rick

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Army 's Comment
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If I see anything with CBD in it, I steer clear. Funny thing, yesterday at a convenience store, I see what looks like mini tubes of honey...or something like that, that contain CBD oil. When you remove it from the stores carton, it has no identifiable markings on it. VERY concerning....looks like a normal honey and yes I agree with Rick, could definitely cause you to pop hot.

Oz's Comment
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True (medical grade) CBD is obtained from the same plant and there would be trace amounts of THC. As I understand from being close to someone with a card. Best to ask someone at a facility to be sure thought IMHO.

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