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Marcelo M.'s Comment
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Hello Trucking Truth Family!

First off, my name is Marcelo and I am an Army Veteran. I just graduated from a private CDL school this past week. I’m new to all of this and I’ve been doing as much research as possible through the forms before I posted this.

I have an offer from TMC and Schneider on the table, but I want to know the truth behind each offer before I attack. I have been pre-hired for a Dedicated Walmart position with Schneider driving at night with a rate of .53 cpm driving around 1,600 miles or more per week, which I think is pretty good for a rookie with jack squat of trucking experience. I also have starting percentage of 26% with TMC. I really like both companies and can see myself doing flatbeds, reefers, and dry vans. I like the benefits of both, the equipment, the military benefits, but I am struggling to figure out which one is a better offer as far as starting pay. I did the math for Schneider, but it’s hard to do the math for TMC since it’s only percentage per load and doesn’t cover cents per mile technically. I read the forms saying percentage is a little tricky since its hard to verify if the total cost per load is truthful with the amount being paid to the driver. Sorry if this is a little unorthodox but I’m just not too sure how to compare each rate. Any advice would help and if I confused any readers please let me know and I’ll try to explain myself some more.

Thanks in advance!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dry Van:

A trailer or truck that that requires no special attention, such as refrigeration, that hauls regular palletted, boxed, or floor-loaded freight. The most common type of trailer in trucking.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

Pre-hire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

Reefer:

A refrigerated trailer.

Jay F.'s Comment
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I briefly worked for TMC. Still in contact with the guys from my class. It’s a great company, and you will earn 50K your first year. Perhaps more. Flatbed is a lot harder work though.

PackRat's Comment
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Welcome to the Trucking Truth site!

If it were me, I would go with a CPM , vice percentage pay.

Rates are going to continue to drop for the remainder of 2020 I predict.

Both Schneider and TMC are solid companies to drive for, either at the start of a career, or after decades of experience.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

Errol V.'s Comment
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... starting pay.

How many years do you plan to be "starting", Marcelo? One way to look at starting pay is that you are, in a way, paying for more training. It's great you have that full CDL-A license. But truly there's more to trucking than HOS rules and backing a trailer. Once you get in with a company you should be sent out with an experienced trainer for a few weeks to learn the finer points of the business.

So, once you've got the starting part done, you'll do much more time as an experienced driver. In talking with recruiters, do ask how long the training program is, and what's involved. But focus on benefits over the long term. Here's some reading we have for newbies:

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

PJ's Comment
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The pay structure in my perspective isn’t where you need to focus. Look at each company and the work. They are both very different. Which one fits you the best?

Percentage isn’t as scary as some people think. In the end they will both work out very similiar. Miles go up and down, and every load pays different. No company is going to price a load to loose money.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Papa Pig's Comment
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Biggest question is if you prefer to do dry van or flatbed. Also, if percentage has you worried and you want to do flatbed there are plenty of cpm flatbed companies. Maverick, McElroy, Roehl Just because they haven’t contacted you, don’t rule them out, they may not be one of your schools partner carriers.

I am army also

I have an application in with maverick and am going through their prehire process. Their training is supposed to be top notch.I like the fact that you aren’t teaming with their trainers. It’s kinda hard to learn if they are sleeping while you are driving and vice versa. Have you looked into them?

Dry Van:

A trailer or truck that that requires no special attention, such as refrigeration, that hauls regular palletted, boxed, or floor-loaded freight. The most common type of trailer in trucking.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

Prehire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

Marcelo M.'s Comment
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I briefly worked for TMC. Still in contact with the guys from my class. It’s a great company, and you will earn 50K your first year. Perhaps more. Flatbed is a lot harder work though.

Thank you for the input!

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