Second Chance Carrier For Teams.

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Keith M.'s Comment
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Hello everyone, it's nice to be on the site. I have been here several times as a guest to check things out and have learned a lot! There is a wealth of knowledge here so I decided it was time to register!

I'm a new driver with about 4 months OTR and would like to team up with my brother. He is also a new driver with about 5 months OTR as well. We have been running into a couple issues because my brother has two preventable accidents (albeit minor) on his record. He was termed for those accidents with that carrier. Since then we have been searching and so far only found Western and Trans Am willing to take him. Can anyone suggest another team company? He has about 3 months before those accidents are over a year old and then Covenant will take him. Frankly, we are not knowledgeable enough (yet, still learning) to do the Trans Am route because that is a lease op. To little time in the industry for that and Western Express seems to have horror story after horror story. So I'm a little cautious on joining with them.

Please advise! Thanks!!!

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Big T's Comment
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Every company out here has horror stories. In your situation you don't really have a lot of options.

Something to think about though. Your brother has less than a year and has two preventable accidents/ incidents that were major enough to be terminated for them. Is it a good idea to put your career, earning potential, and safety in his hands?

Personally I would wait till you both have a year of experience and he shows he has learned from his mistakes before you jump ship.

Consider this: you settle some place that will take him and he has another wreck. Now you are stuck somewhere you may not want to be.

Not knocking your brother just putting some food for thought out.

Keith M.'s Comment
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Thanks for the reply. I understand what you are saying. I don't want to air out his dirty laundry but they were minimal. No other people were involved and frankly he ratted on himself thinking he was doing the right thing. So yes, driving down the road I have full confidence in his abilities. Had he not said anything, honestly, he probably wouldn't have anything on his report. Live and learn I guess. He did what he felt was right.

Your comment does raise a question though. If he were to get into an accident or heck even if I were to get into an accident. That only would go on the driver, correct? His mistakes are his just as mine are mine.

PackRat's Comment
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Thanks for the reply. I understand what you are saying. I don't want to air out his dirty laundry but they were minimal. No other people were involved and frankly he ratted on himself thinking he was doing the right thing. So yes, driving down the road I have full confidence in his abilities. Had he not said anything, honestly, he probably wouldn't have anything on his report. Live and learn I guess. He did what he felt was right.

Your comment does raise a question though. If he were to get into an accident or heck even if I were to get into an accident. That only would go on the driver, correct? His mistakes are his just as mine are mine.

It does not matter that his preventable accidents were minor, as you phrase it. These two were preventable accidents.

It also doesn't matter that nobody else was involved. Examples: backing over a fire hydrant, rolling into a building after forgetting to set the air brakes, driving off a bridge while on the phone.

You need to stay put where you are now. In the future, stay away from anything with the word LEASE in it.

Keith M.'s Comment
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Thank you for the feedback. Agreed on what you are saying preventable accidents are still accidents.

Regardless I'm going out with him and we will see how it goes. I was just hoping to see if anyone could advise on other carriers aside from Western Express? If there are other options that would be super. Otherwise we roll with them for the time that we need to to.

Thanks again!

IDMtnGal 's Comment
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All companies will have some to a LOT of negative comments because, as I studied in business classes, 9+ people will tell others of what they don't like about a business or company. While there could be more than half that likes a business or company, only 2 will tell others.

So, Western Express is a good company for 2d chances. However, I didn't know that they ran team. Check all companies that have schools, because they deal with beginners, see if they run teams outside of the starter stage and if they give 2d chances....some do, some don't.

Laura

Keith M.'s Comment
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Laura, you are so right. People are far more inclined to tell others or poor experiences than of good ones. That being said, holy smokes there's so much bad on Western Express. I'm making calls tomorrow to see what I come up with.

Thanks!

Stevo Reno's Comment
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All I know is where I am @ CRST, they have the miles and the work ! And hire just about anybody hahaha I just finished my contract ,but plan to stay there for now ,at least. Just once again, I need to find me another co-driver Last guy was a raging looney, he left the job/company whewwww! Our last week, we ran 6800 miles, even after a few times parked for 8+ hours ! even 26 hours waiting on a relay to get us home.

Scott M's Comment
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I just finished my contract ,but plan to stay there for now ,at least. Just once again, I need to find me another co-driver Last guy was a raging looney, he left the job/company whewwww! Our last week, we ran 6800 miles, even after a few times parked for 8+ hours ! even 26 hours waiting on a relay to get us home.

Steve Reno I’d like to co-drive with you, but I see you’re in CA- I’m in Missouri. I assume will not work. Am I correct?

PackRat's Comment
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I just finished my contract ,but plan to stay there for now ,at least. Just once again, I need to find me another co-driver Last guy was a raging looney, he left the job/company whewwww! Our last week, we ran 6800 miles, even after a few times parked for 8+ hours ! even 26 hours waiting on a relay to get us home.

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Steve Reno I’d like to co-drive with you, but I see you’re in CA- I’m in Missouri. I assume will not work. Am I correct?

It will. When I started at CRST, my co driver was from Huntsville, Texas, while I was out of Virginia.

We alternated home time locations every other month.

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