Electronic Log And 34 Hour Reset

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Tim M.'s Comment
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Hello all. Got a couple questions. What is an electronic log? Can lie in them? What is a 34 hour reset? From what I understand you gotta do the reset after 60 or 70 hours. Then I read something else that made it sound like it "isn't " mandatory. What's up here? Remember guys. I started driving when I came back from Nam. Back when I was driving I ran 2 logs. An actual and a dummy . I'm retired now,so I don't keep on current events in trucking. The internet wasn't around when I started driving. Wish it was. I could've used a site like this when I was getting started . Keep it between the ditches guys and gals.

Turtle's Comment
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Welcome, Tim. HOS rules are difficult to understand at first, especially if you come from a paper background. But check this out, it's a start.

Understanding log book rules

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Rob T.'s Comment
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Electronic Log Device, ELD, is a system wired into the trucks computer. It automatically switches your logs to driving or on duty. For my company we're allowed to go up to 5 mph while logged on duty but anything over kicks us to driving. After 5 minutes of sitting stationary our logs automatically kick us to on duty and have it start at the beginning of when I was stationary. It does pop up a screen asking if we want to stay in driving but you only have about 10 seconds to do select before it disappears. For the most part it's difficult to cheat on logs without it being obvious. If you log out and continue to drive it will flag that activity and make it obvious to the inspector.

You're allowed to work up to 70 hours in a 8 day period. You can get your full 70 clock back by taking 34 hours off (reset) or run recaps which means on day 9 you receive whatever you logged on duty or driving back. Some drivers prefer running about 9 hours a day on recaps, others prefer to run out their 14 everyday and take 34 hours off to enjoy the area they're in.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

Tim M.'s Comment
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To think I used to hate the ICC. They may as well still be around. This sounds like goofy crap they'd come up with. Thanks Drivers.

G-Town's Comment
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To think I used to hate the ICC. They may as well still be around. This sounds like goofy crap they'd come up with. Thanks Drivers.

Define Goofy.

Tim M.'s Comment
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Goofy. Something that makes no sense .

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To think I used to hate the ICC. They may as well still be around. This sounds like goofy crap they'd come up with. Thanks Drivers.

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Define Goofy.

G-Town's Comment
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You missed my point Tim...

What is it about

Learn The Logbook Rules (HOS)

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that you find “Goody”?

That you can’t lie? Etc.?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Logbook:

A written or electronic record of a driver's duty status which must be maintained at all times. The driver records the amount of time spent driving, on-duty not driving, in the sleeper berth, or off duty. The enforcement of the Hours Of Service Rules (HOS) are based upon the entries put in a driver's logbook.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Tim M.'s Comment
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"Goofy" G,not "goody"

Tim M.'s Comment
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Okay G. You want "goofy " crap? Here you go. No I don't find it goofy I can't lie. I don't care. I retired . Remember? The 34 hour reset. It said its "voluntary",why even bring it up. ELDs . I love this one. It said,"with old paper logs,drivers would have to round up to 15 minutes". What? I never rounded up to anything. I'd lie like a dog. Every driver I knew was like me. We ran actual and a dummy log. Maybe company drivers didn't . I don't know. I was O/O. I had bills to pay. Hell it even said something about ELDs keeping track of when your engine is running. WTF! I would've been screwed if ELDs were around back then. I kept engine running so I could keep the A/C or heat going. We may not understand each other . We come from 2 different time periods. I started driving in '70 a couple months after I got back from Nam. I got a job with pops friend. He was leased to Paul Arpin Van Lines. I was basically his lumper. I gradually got into the drivers seat. Ford cabover with a 5x4 (how many people today remember those). We're just from 2 different graduating classes.The only thing that still applies now as back then,keep the wheels spinning and the Beavers grinning. Deliver the freight in a safe and timely fashion . Okay G. Is that what you want to hear?

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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Come on guys. Play nicely. Lol

Exactly what Tim described is what scares some drivers from coming back into trucking. The rules and technology have all changed. That can terrify some people which is why we are here to help guide people.

And we attempt to do it with a smile😄. And sometimes a kiss 👄

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