Getting Snow/Ice OFF Your Trailers - IT'S THE LAW (in 12 Or More States)

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GrayBeardinPA's Comment
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I dunno maybe if states DoT installed roof scrappers at weight stations and rest areas this wouldn’t a wide spread problem. But that’s logical thinking.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Delco Dave's Comment
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I dunno maybe if states DoT installed roof scrappers at weight stations and rest areas this wouldn’t a wide spread problem. But that’s logical thinking.

Again, I think the problem lies in keeping the scraper bay clear. If you have 6 inches of snow on a trailer that is 8 feet wide by 53 feet long, thats 2500 cubic feet of snow. Thats the equivalent of 7-8 yards of mulch/soil. Each truck worth needs to be cleared before another can enter. The fact that it is an as needed job complicates things as well. The logistics and scheduling to have equipment and manpower at those sites only when it snows would be expensive and a nightmare. Someone calls out or the plow truck or loader go down, that scraper is now useless until a replacement gets there.

I hope they figure something out and help resolve this issue but my guess is its easier and cheaper for them to just do nothing and let the drivers figure it out for themselves

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
PackRat's Comment
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I’m guessing the reason these trailer snow clearing devices aren’t widely available all comes down to $$$$. Someone would have to be onsite with a plow or skid loader to constantly clear the snow from under the device. Truck stops could charge a fee for the service to offset the equipment and employee payroll so it could work there but having someone just sitting and waiting at the highway rest stop would cost the states a small fortune.

Is the FMCSA working on a solution for this problem? Have companies and drivers been putting pressure on them to resolve this issue?

Build the approach and exit area like a giant cattle guard. Snow falls off into a pit, is melted, then flows through a containment area that has a oil/water separator.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Delco Dave's Comment
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I agree Packrat!!! A melting system is the best solution but who’s gonna foot the bill for them?

PackRat's Comment
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I agree Packrat!!! A melting system is the best solution but who’s gonna foot the bill for them?

JackAzz Dorsey, Marky Z., Jeffrey Bozo maybe?

Those three have more money than most governments.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Keith A.'s Comment
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I agree Packrat!!! A melting system is the best solution but who’s gonna foot the bill for them?

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JackAzz Dorsey, Marky Z., Jeffrey Bozo maybe?

Those three have more money than most governments.

They need that money to create jobs though... can't have them spending it on something silly like keeping trucks moving. xD

Forreal though I think that's the best idea. Hardest in areas where the rest stop or weigh station isn't actually hooked to sewer/water systems , but doable. Only needs a switch flipped so it wouldn't even be a huge daily uptick, just primarily initial investment. (Which makes it sound easier than it actually is to get that.)

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Turtle's Comment
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There are in fact companies that go around cleaning off trailers. At WM we are required to contact the shop anytime we pick up a trailer covered in snow. The shop calls the contractors, and soon enough a couple dudes show up in a pickup truck with ladders and shovels to clean off the trailer.

While at a wm dc just last week, a Werner truck and trailer was not allowed to leave the property with snow on the roof. He was sent back to use the DC scraper before leaving. So at least in that one instance I witnessed, WM allowed an outside carrier to use the scraper. I'm not sure of the actual company policy though.

Mikey B.'s Comment
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Sadly I would not be surprised to see AOC or any of a handful of other nutjob politicians nowadays try to pass a law making it illegal for snow to fall on trailers. Mother Nature gets a ticket.

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