Best Clock Management Strategies?

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Sid V.'s Comment
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Hi,

One thing to note about the split birth is this. This is the way i think about it. You have 11 hours to drive in a 14 hour period. That means you have (3) three hours of, what i call "do whatever you want time". 3 hours. That's it.

In a 8/2 split, you will have to spend 2 hours of that 3 hours in a dock or in some that's not you don't want to spend that time. Which means for the rest of the day you have ONE hour of "do whatever you want".

If in OS's example you started your clock, drove half a mile to the shipper , then spent 2 hours waiting in off duty, that's great right?, wrong.

You now have one hour left on your clocks until your at the mercy of your 14 hour clock (which 30 min's of that has to be a break) during the next 10.5 hours so i hope you like driving a lot and don't stop.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

PJ's Comment
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You have to be very very careful using personal conveyance. Some compaines limit it in distance or time or refuse to allow their drivers to use it at all. Also it is subject to interpertation by DOT Officers. You never want to do anything against company policy and I suggest not cutting things so close in areas subject to interpertation you invite more scrutiny.

DOT has your 8 days at their disposal during an inspection. More and more states are increasing roadside inspections., espically in the south. Just in the last few hours coming across I-20 between Ms and Al I saw 6 roadside inspections going on.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Rob D.'s Comment
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Hi,

One thing to note about the split birth is this. This is the way i think about it. You have 11 hours to drive in a 14 hour period. That means you have (3) three hours of, what i call "do whatever you want time". 3 hours. That's it.

In a 8/2 split, you will have to spend 2 hours of that 3 hours in a dock or in some that's not you don't want to spend that time. Which means for the rest of the day you have ONE hour of "do whatever you want".

If in OS's example you started your clock, drove half a mile to the shipper , then spent 2 hours waiting in off duty, that's great right?, wrong.

You now have one hour left on your clocks until your at the mercy of your 14 hour clock (which 30 min's of that has to be a break) during the next 10.5 hours so i hope you like driving a lot and don't stop.

Sid,

With the new rule, the 2 hour off-duty does not count toward the 14-hour clock. So if, in your example, I'm off-duty for 2 hours waiting, my 14-hour clock becomes a 16-hour clock. If I'm there for 3 hours, my 14-hour clock becomes a 17-hour clock. And with a glitch in Prime's ELD, if I spend two separate off duty periods, one 2 hours and the other 3 hours, it will turn my 14 hour clock becomes a 19-hour clock. I have not used that because I don't think it it correct.

Rob.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Sid V.'s Comment
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Rob,

Thanks for the clarification. I still go by the old rules because i don't know if my ELD is updated with the new rules or not and i'm not going to spend hours on the phone calling Timmy from India trying to find out the info.

Be safe out there.

Rick S.'s Comment
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Rob,

Thanks for the clarification. I still go by the old rules because i don't know if my ELD is updated with the new rules or not and i'm not going to spend hours on the phone calling Timmy from India trying to find out the info.

Be safe out there.

LOL.

I've read on a few industry blogs where sometimes the ELD doesn't reflect the correct 14, until you approach the limit. Changing the split rule gives some more flexibility - especially where you're spending a few hours at a consignee. It's trying to fix a known problem with wait times - by NOT FIXING THE ACTUAL PROBLEM - WAIT TIMES.

Running on "pure splits" (using the split every day) is going to end up even more confusing to some, than running pure recaps. At some point, a REAL 10 BREAK is going to be necessary to straighten ELD's AND body clocks back out. You take a 3 - then a 7 later. Is 7 REALLY ENOUGH to get decent rest AND take care of showers/etc.?

Rick

Consignee:

The customer the freight is being delivered to. Also referred to as "the receiver". The shipper is the customer that is shipping the goods, the consignee is the customer receiving the goods.

Rob D.'s Comment
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Rick says:

Running on "pure splits" (using the split every day) is going to end up even more confusing to some, than running pure recaps. At some point, a REAL 10 BREAK is going to be necessary to straighten ELD's AND body clocks back out. You take a 3 - then a 7 later. Is 7 REALLY ENOUGH to get decent rest AND take care of showers/etc.?

I really have only used the new rule as 14-hour clock extender. Usually, with the 2-hour extension, I can use more of my 11-hour drive time on day 1, then take a full 10-hour break, and have a full 11 hour drive clock on day 2. I've only use the 8/2 split once to get to a delivery sooner, knowing that I would have to take a 2-hour break later in the day. Other than that, I don't see the benefit of the 8/2 split, because I'm always borrowing against my next 14-hour clock.

Also, while I have yet to run on recaps, it sounds like more of a pain in butt. Running hard and taking a 34-hour resets makes it easy. I've know I got 11/14 everyday, until the end of my 70. Also makes is easy for my FM.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

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Operating While Intoxicated

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