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John B.'s Comment
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Just got done with my physical to get my clp but they only gave me a 3 month card and brochure for a sleep apnea study. Wilson and Roehl have pulled back there offers and I am sure Prime will too. Sleep like a baby every night but this damn dr swears I must have apnea because of my neck is over 17 inches. It was stressful enough changing careers now this. Sorry had to rant, now back to your normal broadcast.

Sleep Apnea:

A physical disorder in which you have pauses in your breathing, or take shallow breaths, during sleep. These pauses can last anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. Normal breathing will usually resume, sometimes with a loud choking sound or snort.

In obstructive sleep apnea, your airways become blocked or collapse during sleep, causing the pauses and shallow breathing.

It is a chronic condition that will require ongoing management. It affects about 18 million people in the U.S.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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Just got done with my physical to get my clp but they only gave me a 3 month card and brochure for a sleep apnea study. Wilson and Roehl have pulled back there offers and I am sure Prime will too. Sleep like a baby every night but this damn dr swears I must have apnea because of my neck is over 17 inches. It was stressful enough changing careers now this. Sorry had to rant, now back to your normal broadcast.

Prime will send you to their own doctor then have you get the sleep test done at a lab in their terminal. They advance the payment to the sleep people then take it from you weekly once you get the CDL.

Dont sweat it.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Sleep Apnea:

A physical disorder in which you have pauses in your breathing, or take shallow breaths, during sleep. These pauses can last anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. Normal breathing will usually resume, sometimes with a loud choking sound or snort.

In obstructive sleep apnea, your airways become blocked or collapse during sleep, causing the pauses and shallow breathing.

It is a chronic condition that will require ongoing management. It affects about 18 million people in the U.S.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

John B.'s Comment
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Really? I hope so, going to take my CLP test now. Thanks for all the info and videos Kearsy, hopefully we will cross paths at terminal one day and I can thank you as a fellow Prime driver

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Just got done with my physical to get my clp but they only gave me a 3 month card and brochure for a sleep apnea study. Wilson and Roehl have pulled back there offers and I am sure Prime will too. Sleep like a baby every night but this damn dr swears I must have apnea because of my neck is over 17 inches. It was stressful enough changing careers now this. Sorry had to rant, now back to your normal broadcast.

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Prime will send you to their own doctor then have you get the sleep test done at a lab in their terminal. They advance the payment to the sleep people then take it from you weekly once you get the CDL.

Dont sweat it.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Sleep Apnea:

A physical disorder in which you have pauses in your breathing, or take shallow breaths, during sleep. These pauses can last anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. Normal breathing will usually resume, sometimes with a loud choking sound or snort.

In obstructive sleep apnea, your airways become blocked or collapse during sleep, causing the pauses and shallow breathing.

It is a chronic condition that will require ongoing management. It affects about 18 million people in the U.S.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

Pete E Pothole's Comment
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First year i got a one year card due to type two diabetes. Second year i went to renew card, and was sent for a sleep study. I was kind of upset about it at the time, because during the time between physicals I lost 40 lbs. Same location, same doctor even. The only difference was first year I had clp , and second year I had cdl. I asked why I was being sent citing my weight loss and improved a1c, she said because now you have a license.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

Stevo Reno's Comment
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If all else fails go to another dr .....2nd opinions

Both my medicals were for 1 year, neither mentioned sleep apnea , and my necks been 18" since I was 16 ! .........I was ready IF they tried that BS lol I've snored since a kid, like a freight train, even at 120 pound toothpick. My mom used to ask me how I didn't wake myself up? I said like duh Ma, because I was asleep?! lol

Last DR said he was shocked my lungs are in such good shape after 46 years smoking. I told him it's in the gene's bruh, and I rarely get sick (flu 2014 last time)

Sleep Apnea:

A physical disorder in which you have pauses in your breathing, or take shallow breaths, during sleep. These pauses can last anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. Normal breathing will usually resume, sometimes with a loud choking sound or snort.

In obstructive sleep apnea, your airways become blocked or collapse during sleep, causing the pauses and shallow breathing.

It is a chronic condition that will require ongoing management. It affects about 18 million people in the U.S.

JakeBreak's Comment
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I'm gonna go on a little rant here. I think the whole thing is a scam. Is there a problem with it in the industry, yes there is. I blame that more on people not knowing about it than anything.

Sleep apnea , outside of the medical industry never got talked about until recently. It has been publicized so much now that anyone that thinks they have it or has the symptoms knows where to go get tested. And they should, I know a few people who have it and they do sleep better with the CPAP than they did before.

But ever since the FMCSA got involved, the industry has been cranking all at the drivers expense. The numbers of drivers with sleep apnea have been going up at the same rate that the testing numbers have been going down. It used to be you had to have almost double the number of episodes that the current diagnoses allow.

So you have an industry lowering thier diagnostic criteria, to catch more people in thier net, to sell more machines. Ever since the government got involved. This does not apply to people who actually do have symptoms and seek treatment for it. Thats the way it should be imo. And if its done that way, its usually covered under insurance. Forcing people who meet some sort of list of risk factors to have to pay out of pocket for it so they can get a job should be illegal, again just my opinion.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Sleep Apnea:

A physical disorder in which you have pauses in your breathing, or take shallow breaths, during sleep. These pauses can last anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. Normal breathing will usually resume, sometimes with a loud choking sound or snort.

In obstructive sleep apnea, your airways become blocked or collapse during sleep, causing the pauses and shallow breathing.

It is a chronic condition that will require ongoing management. It affects about 18 million people in the U.S.

CPAP:

Constant Positive Airway Pressure

CPAP is a breathing assist device which is worn over the mouth or nose. It provides nighttime relief for individuals who suffer from Sleep Apnea.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

John B.'s Comment
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Thanks again everybody. I spoke with my family doctor and she is clueless as to why I only got a three month card. You need to have actual symptoms of sleep apnea along with the neck size. But on a positive note just knock the CLP out of the park for for for 100% general knowledge, airbrakes, combination, and tanker

Sleep Apnea:

A physical disorder in which you have pauses in your breathing, or take shallow breaths, during sleep. These pauses can last anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. Normal breathing will usually resume, sometimes with a loud choking sound or snort.

In obstructive sleep apnea, your airways become blocked or collapse during sleep, causing the pauses and shallow breathing.

It is a chronic condition that will require ongoing management. It affects about 18 million people in the U.S.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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Thanks again everybody. I spoke with my family doctor and she is clueless as to why I only got a three month card. You need to have actual symptoms of sleep apnea along with the neck size. But on a positive note just knock the CLP out of the park for for for 100% general knowledge, airbrakes, combination, and tanker

Not true. The companies can determine. The doctor you went to probably does physicals for several companies that require it. Prime requires it for not only the neck measurement but a certain BMI. If you fit that criteria....all prime applicants get a 3 month card then get tested once they get the CDL. DOT standards are minimum. Companies can add restrictions or qualifications. We see this with anxiety and depression mess all the time. Companies disallow the prescribed med.

When I came to prime.. 3 months card. Got CDL got tested. Apnea not severe enough for machine. 2 years later...gained weight..got tested. BoOM. Machine.

This is common now. Schneider and Old Dominion are testing drivers too.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Sleep Apnea:

A physical disorder in which you have pauses in your breathing, or take shallow breaths, during sleep. These pauses can last anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. Normal breathing will usually resume, sometimes with a loud choking sound or snort.

In obstructive sleep apnea, your airways become blocked or collapse during sleep, causing the pauses and shallow breathing.

It is a chronic condition that will require ongoing management. It affects about 18 million people in the U.S.

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

Ted P.'s Comment
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As much as some people don't know this the concern of the Doctor isn't a weight issue as it is a neck diameter.... Depending on the "carrier" does depend on the Doctor, or service used... Concentra is usually used for the most part. I have been dealing with Concentra for the better side of 10 years, and the Doctors there I golf with occasionally... Keeping the "Doctor" in your friend network is always a good idea, for this reason as well, IF they know you personally it is a conflicting authority that these other Doctor's opinion would NOT be a valid concern... with this being said, If the situation goes to court the other doctor will look over-cautious... ( My opinion) In my life it has gotten to that point. Managing weight IS a major issue in the truck, for most of US on the road, it is a hard battle, even when it is very cold outside. self motivation is harder to stay positive, but must be handled. Sleep apnea has always been a concern IF you are a bigger guy, or gal. and always will be. also to think about if your older getting someone younger in that truck is better for the company rather them taking there chance on just you. with this being said, and you have received the sleep apnea test they require, then that lasts 2 years as well as the Fed Med card they will give you. it isn't the point that they are cautious, the fact is that you have to second guess there request before they ask for it. public safety is there main concern. with all due respect.

Just got done with my physical to get my clp but they only gave me a 3 month card and brochure for a sleep apnea study. Wilson and Roehl have pulled back there offers and I am sure Prime will too. Sleep like a baby every night but this damn dr swears I must have apnea because of my neck is over 17 inches. It was stressful enough changing careers now this. Sorry had to rant, now back to your normal broadcast.

Sleep Apnea:

A physical disorder in which you have pauses in your breathing, or take shallow breaths, during sleep. These pauses can last anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. Normal breathing will usually resume, sometimes with a loud choking sound or snort.

In obstructive sleep apnea, your airways become blocked or collapse during sleep, causing the pauses and shallow breathing.

It is a chronic condition that will require ongoing management. It affects about 18 million people in the U.S.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

John B.'s Comment
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Just got off the phone with my Prime recruiter. I’m officially starting with Prime on the 25th. They wouldn’t have even accepted the outside sleep apnea test.

Sleep Apnea:

A physical disorder in which you have pauses in your breathing, or take shallow breaths, during sleep. These pauses can last anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. Normal breathing will usually resume, sometimes with a loud choking sound or snort.

In obstructive sleep apnea, your airways become blocked or collapse during sleep, causing the pauses and shallow breathing.

It is a chronic condition that will require ongoing management. It affects about 18 million people in the U.S.

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