I Never Should Have Given Up My CDL Back In 2016. Ugh.

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David F.'s Comment
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AZ seems to be going out of it's way to make it frustratingly hard to get my CDL again. The company I'd go to work for hauls HazMat tankers. Well, AZ won't let permit holders drive tankers (must be empty) that have hauled HazMat unless they've been purged. There goes the plan of having a company truck for the Drive Test. Hmmm. confused.gif

Unless the company happens to have a purged tanker sitting in the yard, I'm pretty much out of luck on that option.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Old School's Comment
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David, I am fairly certain that is a rule that most states have. Your company knows that, so I would think they will try to accommodate you.

How is it that you are trying to get your CDL? Is someone willing to hire you without a training certificate? That in itself is highly unusual, if not suspect, in today's business climate.

Is your company going to hire you with a new CDL and no training certificate, then have you pulling HazMat tanker loads?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

David F.'s Comment
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Is your company going to hire you with a new CDL and no training certificate, then have you pulling HazMat tanker loads?

I had 10yrs of driving experience, including 7 in gasoline tankers. When I moved into Dispatch, I let my CDL lapse. I then left that company and went to work in a call center (yuck). Not for me. One of my old drivers is a lead driver at the new company and they are willing to hire me. I just need to get my CDL back and go through their orientation/training/road testing. And some intensive practice before the CDL Road Test.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Old School's Comment
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David, it just seems odd to me. You don't have any recent experience. That is the kicker when it comes to getting you covered by an insurance company. I hope you are being careful with your choice of company. This just sounds really suspect. Most reputable trucking operations will require you to go through some sort of trucking school for a refresher course. They will be required by their insurance carrier to do this. They will also be required by the FMCSA to have your certificate on file in the case of an audit.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

David F.'s Comment
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That was my initial thought as well. I figured I would need to do the school route just like the first time around. I'll see what happens and go with my gut instinct. If I have to do school and commit to a year contract, so be it. If that happens, I'll be spending lots more time going through the Diaries and posts to see who is the best to go with.

I'll post either way, however it goes.

David F.'s Comment
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It's amazing what happens when you have faith. The company had a trailer I could use and I passed my CDL skills/road test and then passed my HazMat endorsement test immediately after. My new license came in the mail and tomorrow I start training on how to be a gas hauler again!

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CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Old School's Comment
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Congratulations sir!

I hope it all goes well for you. I would never recommend starting out as a tanker driver, but I wish you the best.

David F.'s Comment
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Congratulations sir!

I hope it all goes well for you. I would never recommend starting out as a tanker driver, but I wish you the best.

I actually started out in dry van with Schneider back in 2003. So I'm really "technically" starting out as a tanker, but I understand what you're saying.

This should be fun.

Dry Van:

A trailer or truck that that requires no special attention, such as refrigeration, that hauls regular palletted, boxed, or floor-loaded freight. The most common type of trailer in trucking.
Rhino's Comment
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One of my favorite movies right there!

It's amazing what happens when you have faith. The company had a trailer I could use and I passed my CDL skills/road test and then passed my HazMat endorsement test immediately after. My new license came in the mail and tomorrow I start training on how to be a gas hauler again!

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CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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Congratulations sir!

I hope it all goes well for you. I would never recommend starting out as a tanker driver, but I wish you the best.

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I actually started out in dry van with Schneider back in 2003. So I'm really "technically" starting out as a tanker, but I understand what you're saying.

This should be fun.

Wish you the best, David!!

PJ (who's busy and not around often) is our tanker mod, and Daniel B. (who's no longer pulling fuel but sure DID) is another one of our moderators, if you want to look up some of their threads, and perhaps we can summon them for input:

@ PJ

@ Daniel B.

Worth a try!!

My other half started dry van in 2003 also; switched to tanks in 2011 and pulled asphalt for 5 years, before going back to dry van local/intrastate. It sure was interesting, that's for sure! (No fuel / flammable experience though; sorry!) I had a blast running with him!

I DO see O/S's point, however . . . you've been 'out of the saddle' for awhile; lack of continuum in driving an 18 wheeler and jumping back in, straight to pulling a tank is . . . risque~ for lack of a better word. Be super safe. There's A LOT to it, good sir!

I'll be excited to follow your journey if you'd find time to start a diary.

Again, all the best;

~ Anne ~

Intrastate:

The act of purchasers and sellers transacting business while keeping all transactions in a single state, without crossing state lines to do so.

Dry Van:

A trailer or truck that that requires no special attention, such as refrigeration, that hauls regular palletted, boxed, or floor-loaded freight. The most common type of trailer in trucking.
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