Terminated During Training, No Verifiable OTR Experience. Any Company Advice?

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RJ's Comment
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Have you tried Western Express? They might give you a shot.

I have started their application. I'm not concerned about a companies reputation. I know every company has issues, but any company that will give me a job, i'll take.

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

Old School's Comment
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RJ, I started my trucking career at Western Express. I did very well there, and I have gone on to have a very successful trucking career. They would hire me back in a heart beat. All those nasty reviews you read about them are written by drivers who couldn't handle the job. Trucking is trucking. It has issues. Most people don't realize how much of their own issues they cause out here. You seem to have a great attitude. You realize you caused some problems and you got let go. I don't see you screeching about how unfairly TMC treated you. Western Express isn't perfect, but by golly when they offered me a job back when nobody else would, I considered them a great company. Maybe you will have the same experience.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
RJ's Comment
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RJ, I started my trucking career at Western Express. I did very well there, and I have gone on to have a very successful trucking career. They would hire me back in a heart beat. All those nasty reviews you read about them are written by drivers who couldn't handle the job. Trucking is trucking. It has issues. Most people don't realize how much of their own issues they cause out here. You seem to have a great attitude. You realize you caused some problems and you got let go. I don't see you screeching about how unfairly TMC treated you. Western Express isn't perfect, but by golly when they offered me a job back when nobody else would, I considered them a great company. Maybe you will have the same experience.

Thank you, I've been looking at basically every company out there. I know that the reviews may/may not be my experience. I'm not focused on which company is the "best"... any company that offers me a job, no matter who, i'm going to accept. I just hope it's an OTR company, because i want to go out west. I am not trying to bash TMC, they were an awesome company from the experience I had with them. It was my fault completely that they let me go.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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RJ,

Dutch Maid Logistics is a 2nd chance company, here in Willard, Ohio. Our own member Optical (the tool box guy, now ..haha!) just started driving for them, after their training. Search out his threads!

Re: the company itself, I'm sure you've done your research, per your above post. My other half interacts with them on a regular, as one of his larger customers is right up the road from their facility. He's got nothing but good to say; medium sized company, pulling reefers; good equipment.

Wish you the best; hope this all works out for ya!

Any way you could just pay off TMC with a loan from a credit union, or something, and get that certificate, however? Might be a quicker solution, if you could.

My thoughts, only.

Best wishes~

~ Anne ~

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Hello Anne, thank you, I looked them up and started the application. Does Optical still work for them , if you know? I'm about to look him up but am new to the forum. I was thinking about taking out a loan, incase I had to, just to not have any issues with TMC.

Howdy, RJ;

To answer your question, yes he does; here's his upgrade thread: Optical's Upgrade.

Also have a friend named Luc (from another forum) I directed to Dutch Maid; he's still there as well, after 2 years.

PAM is ALSO, right there, in Willard. A significant (sadly, late) mentor in my life worked for Decker for MANY years, which WAS under the PAM umbrella in the day; that's also a possibility, for you! He was dedicated, local/regional home daily (in Ohio, though) delivering parts for MTD (mowers.) You can apply for them on that one & done app I sent you.

(I'd STILL fill out the 'universal' app's in my post above, were I you.)

About the 'loan' to pay off TMC, I just don't see 'how' it could hurt, IF you have the ability to do so. Just pay the credit union instead of them, and even if you aren't a member of one, it's EASY to get into. They have the best, most amenable, loans . . . and it just BOOSTS your credit score, all the quicker. (That's my older age/mommy style talking, haha!)

Wish you well, keep us in the loop, of course!

~ Anne ~

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

Reefer:

A refrigerated trailer.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

RJ's Comment
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RJ,

Dutch Maid Logistics is a 2nd chance company, here in Willard, Ohio. Our own member Optical (the tool box guy, now ..haha!) just started driving for them, after their training. Search out his threads!

Re: the company itself, I'm sure you've done your research, per your above post. My other half interacts with them on a regular, as one of his larger customers is right up the road from their facility. He's got nothing but good to say; medium sized company, pulling reefers; good equipment.

Wish you the best; hope this all works out for ya!

Any way you could just pay off TMC with a loan from a credit union, or something, and get that certificate, however? Might be a quicker solution, if you could.

My thoughts, only.

Best wishes~

~ Anne ~

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Hello Anne, thank you, I looked them up and started the application. Does Optical still work for them , if you know? I'm about to look him up but am new to the forum. I was thinking about taking out a loan, incase I had to, just to not have any issues with TMC.

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Howdy, RJ;

To answer your question, yes he does; here's his upgrade thread: Optical's Upgrade.

Also have a friend named Luc (from another forum) I directed to Dutch Maid; he's still there as well, after 2 years.

PAM is ALSO, right there, in Willard. A significant (sadly, late) mentor in my life worked for Decker for MANY years, which WAS under the PAM umbrella in the day; that's also a possibility, for you! He was dedicated, local/regional home daily (in Ohio, though) delivering parts for MTD (mowers.) You can apply for them on that one & done app I sent you.

(I'd STILL fill out the 'universal' app's in my post above, were I you.)

About the 'loan' to pay off TMC, I just don't see 'how' it could hurt, IF you have the ability to do so. Just pay the credit union instead of them, and even if you aren't a member of one, it's EASY to get into. They have the best, most amenable, loans . . . and it just BOOSTS your credit score, all the quicker. (That's my older age/mommy style talking, haha!)

Wish you well, keep us in the loop, of course!

~ Anne ~

Hello Anne, I really appreciate the information. I have passed a few Decker trucks and looked at them. Same for PAM, i've seen their rigs on a few occasions. I'm still going to contact other companies and submit applications, its better to try and get told no, then not even attempt it.

I was looking at going through my bank(Navy Fed) to pay TMC back, but i'll be talking to the gentleman that handles the financial issues tomorrow.

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

Reefer:

A refrigerated trailer.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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Have you tried Western Express? They might give you a shot.

THEY ARE ACTUALLY ON OUR 'ONE AND DONE' list . . . . Brett's got something worked out there!!!

RJ will STILL need that buck sixty certificate; as they are no longer training since the tornado, sadly.

~ Anne ~

ps: AGAIN, this:

Apply For Paid CDL Training

Or, upon receipt of that coveted 160 certificate; this:

Apply For Truck Driving Jobs

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
RJ's Comment
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Have you tried Western Express? They might give you a shot.

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THEY ARE ACTUALLY ON OUR 'ONE AND DONE' list . . . . Brett's got something worked out there!!!

RJ will STILL need that buck sixty certificate; as they are no longer training since the tornado, sadly.

~ Anne ~

ps: AGAIN, this:

Apply For Paid CDL Training

Or, upon receipt of that coveted 160 certificate; this:

Apply For Truck Driving Jobs

Hey Anne, Thank you so much for the info. I just got a text from CRST and applied to them. I'm going to call the private CDL school i went to tomorrow, hopefully i cal get the certificate from them. We'll see.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Keith A.'s Comment
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If for some reason you can't get A-class work -- try looking at B-class companies. They may be willing to overlook more flaws than an A-class company might while you get some time between you and your accidents. I did that after picking up a careless driving ticket in 2016, drove a trash truck for almost two years after Knight let me go for that ticket. (I had acquired my CDL through a private school so they had no skin in my game.)

This may not be applicable without that certificate, so if it isn't disregard this, but it might work out for you.

Best of luck.

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I was considering some other options, a few buddies have worked at Class B companies that they can get me on with, but most still require OTR experience.

I at first attended a private CDL school, but I couldnt get my CDL through them for at minimum 2ish months because covid. So, the recruiter from TMC called me and I got my CDL through them.. I appreciate the response. I've been looking at Indeed and Ziprecruiter the last few days.

It's definitely not a perfect solution -- whenever you go back A-class if this is the route you go, you'll have to go through the required training period with your company, but it keeps your CDL fresh and (at least this is how I found it) a lower stress, lower risk place to learn the decision process necessary to avoid stuff like being run off the road by other semis -- not laying any blame on you, just the learning curve is really steep and B-class softens it a little bit.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

RJ's Comment
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If for some reason you can't get A-class work -- try looking at B-class companies. They may be willing to overlook more flaws than an A-class company might while you get some time between you and your accidents. I did that after picking up a careless driving ticket in 2016, drove a trash truck for almost two years after Knight let me go for that ticket. (I had acquired my CDL through a private school so they had no skin in my game.)

This may not be applicable without that certificate, so if it isn't disregard this, but it might work out for you.

Best of luck.

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I was considering some other options, a few buddies have worked at Class B companies that they can get me on with, but most still require OTR experience.

I at first attended a private CDL school, but I couldnt get my CDL through them for at minimum 2ish months because covid. So, the recruiter from TMC called me and I got my CDL through them.. I appreciate the response. I've been looking at Indeed and Ziprecruiter the last few days.

double-quotes-end.png

It's definitely not a perfect solution -- whenever you go back A-class if this is the route you go, you'll have to go through the required training period with your company, but it keeps your CDL fresh and (at least this is how I found it) a lower stress, lower risk place to learn the decision process necessary to avoid stuff like being run off the road by other semis -- not laying any blame on you, just the learning curve is really steep and B-class softens it a little bit.

I appreciate any info. For the incident, i was in a rental car and the semi passed in the right lane, and wasn't going the speed limit. Don't worry, i take nothing personal. I messed up, and have accepted it. Everything happens for a reason. Hopefully, some company will look past this and give me a chance.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Davy A.'s Comment
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Before I got my tickets straightened out, I had a speeding tickets saga that I kept running into. Western Express was more than willing to hire me. Who cares about their reputation online, if you get the job with them, you make your own destiny. Id highly recommend pursuing it. As it was, a bunch of mine ended up getting dropped and my record cleaned up and I was able to get hired by Knight, but Western Express certainly has my gratitude for taking a chance on me when others wouldnt or couldnt.

Also, as you go about looking for other companies, I would look into the citation. Years ago, I high-sided my motorcycle, I hit a patch of oil or hydraulic fluid at high speed during hard braking. While I was in the ambulance, the police sited me for reckless driving, its their default in single motorcycle collisions as they assume the rider to be at fault. I went to court, armed with photos of the oil on scene, and on my tire and they dropped it. Not saying thats the case in yours, but one never knows.

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

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