Non-employee Failed Non-DOT Hair Test At Company Sponsored CDL Training

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Big Scott (CFI's biggest 's Comment
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Technomattic, you took a DOT drug test. There is now a mandatory FMCA drug clearinghouse that companies are required to check.

You will most likely need a SAP program.

Tammy, Try melatonin or meditation and other non narcotic ways to sleep. From all the past stories I have seen on this site, I would highly recommend anyone be 100% clean for at least one year before taking any kind of drug test.

I do not believe anyone who can't leave drugs or alcohol alone should be driving an 80,000 pound death machine.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Tammy A.'s Comment
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I get it. being bored and the pandemic made me start smoking. I dont now for a couple months and could care less. Its just the OP got blindsided. I have a perfect driving record and can pass any test they throw at me but now im ****ed because of something in my body i put months ago. they could test me now till kingdom come and wont find anything but now i might have to wait longer and i was ready ! ALWAYS SOMETHING. OP I wish you well! You got blindsided and that sucks

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I bet if your on all kinds of psyc. meds then thats ok.

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Why would you make such a statement? In fact, we have had a lot of folks needing our help because of their medications. This is a safety related position. You will need to be highly aware of that. Consequently it is highly regulated. While weed is legal in certain areas it is not allowed by the FMCSA. It is also important to remember you will probably be random tested. I was tested about nine times during my first two years at Knight. A positive drug test is the kiss of death in this industry. The hair test has been problematic for a lot of folks. It is always best to give yourself a good nine months to a year of distance from weed if you want to get your foot in the door.

I'm not intending to debate the merits of weed or psychotropic medications, but both of them can keep you out of trucking. Even an anti seizure medication might keep you out. We have to list all our medications when we take our physical. Everything about us is highly monitored because of the safety sensitiveness of the job.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Tammy A.'s Comment
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100% agree! ESPECIALLY ALCOHOL

Technomattic, you took a DOT drug test. There is now a mandatory FMCA drug clearinghouse that companies are required to check.

You will most likely need a SAP program.

Tammy, Try melatonin or meditation and other non narcotic ways to sleep. From all the past stories I have seen on this site, I would highly recommend anyone be 100% clean for at least one year before taking any kind of drug test.

I do not believe anyone who can't leave drugs or alcohol alone should be driving an 80,000 pound death machine.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
TechnoMattic's Comment
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Technomattic, you took a DOT drug test. There is now a mandatory FMCA drug clearinghouse that companies are required to check.

You will most likely need a SAP program.

Tammy, Try melatonin or meditation and other non narcotic ways to sleep. From all the past stories I have seen on this site, I would highly recommend anyone be 100% clean for at least one year before taking any kind of drug test.

I do not believe anyone who can't leave drugs or alcohol alone should be driving an 80,000 pound death machine.

I failed the NON-DOT hair test. It was not a DOT test. I passed the DOT urinalysis.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Errol V.'s Comment
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TechnoMattic asks:

I failed the non-DOT hair test while going to company sponsored CDL school.
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Anyway, will this still go on my DAC and screw me even though I wasn't an employee?

Any company can hire, or not hire any individual depending on company prerequisites. Some things are controlled by law (minimum age, drug traces in your body, for example), some are policy related like a record of alcohol use or driving tickets. If a company wants to use an Ouija Board as a predictor of your driving, they can do that. Mostly, though, your company will use a hair drug test in their decision

Also, just like Trans Union credit reporting, the DAC (Drive-a-Check) is a non-government data exchange.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

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