Paper Transport Inc: Hair Follicle Test (a Few Questions)

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Chris P.'s Comment
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https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/49/392.5

Nevermind, found the proof myself.

Chris P.'s Comment
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Thanks Turtle,

I actually googled and found it myself. I even posted it before you shared but all my posts have to be approved so they don't show up in a timely manner. Anyway, that still means you can have it when you're off duty, but no company is going to let you drink either way, so it's a moot point.

Also, I wasn't trying to imply that drinking alcohol doesn't matter. I was just saying that a lot of us in states that have legalized marijuana use don't see it using it as anymore of a big deal than drinking alcohol. Using alcohol in the wrong manner is still a very big deal, just as pot should be.

Kerry L.'s Comment
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Specifically:

No driver shall;

Be on duty or operate a commercial motor vehicle while the driver possesses wine of not less than one-half of one per centum of alcohol by volume, beer as defined in 26 U.S.C. 5052(a), of the Internal Revenue Code of 1954, or distilled spirits as defined in section 5002(a)(8), of such Code. However, this does not apply to possession of wine, beer, or distilled spirits which are:

(i) Manifested and transported as part of a shipment; or

(ii) Possessed or used by bus passengers.

Thank you, Turtle.

Manifest:

Bill of Lading

An accurate record of everything being shipped on a truck, often times used as a checklist during unloading.

Commercial Motor Vehicle:

A commercial motor vehicle is any vehicle used in commerce to transport passengers or property with either:

  • A gross vehicle weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more
  • A gross combination weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more which includes a towed unit with a gross vehicle weight rating of more than 10,000 pounds
Phil M.'s Comment
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My understanding was that positive folicle tests won't be entered into your "permanent record" in the drug clearinghouse. At least last I read the regulations a year or so ago. If that's true I'd lie, cross my fingers & hope for the best.

Phil M.'s Comment
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Too add, one of the best pieces of advice I got from an old school multigenerational driver when starting out was this. "Take lawful direction & never voluteer information". He knew I had back surgery & told me never to tell anyone in the trucking business. I never did and it never kept me from doing an exceptional job .

I am in a CDL score for which I paid myself. Paper Transport looks like a great company. They scheduled me for a urinalysis and hair follicle test.

I know I'll pass the urinalysis, no problem. As for hair follicle: my hair is too short on my head, so they took leg hair. That will likely show marijuana, as it would definitely have been in my system up until the beginning of September (probably the 3rd of September).

My questions:

* Does anyone have experience with PTI to tell me: will that be an automatic "no"?

* Do the results of hair follicle tests go on your record these days? In other words, will I now be screwed forever?

Thanks in advance.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
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