ELD Violations Question

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Timothy G.'s Comment
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I haul for a company and occasionally go over my 14 hour on duty time. This has only happened 3 times over the course of a year by about 15 minutes each time. We have a 3rd party company called “compliance” that keeps track of our hours and other various things. I’m assuming we hire them just to make sure we keep up to date on laws etc. my question is, if I go over it doesn’t automatically report to DOT or go on my CSA score does it? I’m assuming you actually have to get a DOT inspection where they check your logs?

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Banks's Comment
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Going over your 14 isn't necessarily a violation. Driving over your 14 is a violation. You can be on duty even though you're over 14. They use compliance for their ELD, not to keep up to date on laws.

This won't go to DOT or affect your CSA score. Getting flagged by a DOT officer might. If your companies logs gets audited, it may effect their CSA score.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Bruce K.'s Comment
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Tim, do you have Personal Conveyance? If so you might be able to use it to avoid HOS violations. Any experienced drivers want to comment whether PC could help with this particular situation?

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Rob T.'s Comment
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Tim, do you have Personal Conveyance? If so you might be able to use it to avoid HOS violations. Any experienced drivers want to comment whether PC could help with this particular situation?

If Tim had gone over his 14 hour clock while logged on duty there's no violation. You just can't drive after your 14 hour clock expires or you'll be in violation.

Whether or not PC would help in these situations depends on the reason he would have continued to drive after his 14th hour. Going to the store/restaurant, running out of hours at a shipper/receiver, or moving after being ordered to by law enforcement are all acceptable reasons. The biggest thing is its not meant to advance the load. It's also no excuse for poor trip planning (like running your clock empty THEN start looking for parking)

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Davy A.'s Comment
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I'm wondering the bigger issue of what is making you go over your 14? Are you staying logged on duty at times when you may be off duty?

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