Narcotics Administered At Hospital

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Little Chief's Comment
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Good day truckers. Have a D.O.T. FMCSA drug question.

Kidney stone resulted in parking truck and being admitted to ER. Pain was severe and Morphine was given.

From clearning house guidelines we are to be drug free. Is there any guidelines regarding hospital administered narcotics? How long drug will remain in body. Waivers or documentation kept with driver and cleared to drive?

Would I need to be out of work until drug test indicates all clear?

Thoughts, suggestions?

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Travis's Comment
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Https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/drug-alcohol-testing/implementation-guidelines-alcohol-and-drug-regulations-chapter-6

"MRO Responsibilities

The MRO is required to perform the functions found in 49 CFR subpart G.

Receive all of the results of controlled substances tests from the laboratory.

Review the CCF to ensure its accuracy.

Review and interpret a driver's confirmed positive, adulterated, substituted, or invalid test result by (1) reviewing the driver's medical history, including any medical records and biomedical information provided; (2) affording the driver an opportunity to discuss the test result; and (3) deciding whether there is a legitimate medical explanation for the result, including legally prescribed medication."

Also

"The MRO must also advise the driver that, after informing any third party about any medication the driver is using pursuant to a legally valid prescription under the Controlled Substances Act, the MRO will allow 5 days for the driver to have the prescribing physician contact him/her to determine if the medication can be changed to one that does not make the driver medically unqualified or does not pose a significant safety risk. If the MRO receives such information from the prescribing physician, he/she must transmit this information to any third party to whom the MRO previously provided information about the safety risks of the driver's other medication.

The driver must provide documentation (e.g., a doctor's report, a copy of a prescription) as proof of the legitimate use of medication. The MRO should be certain to set a deadline for receipt of any medical information offered by the driver.

Explanations for Legitimate Confirmed Positive Test Results

Explanations for a legitimate confirmed positive test result might include the use of legally prescribed or dispensed medication or the ingestion of substances that produce the same metabolites as an illegal substance. Examples of legitimate medical treatment are

Codeine prescriptions for coughing and/or pain Narcotic analgesics prescribed for pain Tetrahydrocannabinol prescribed to cancer patients for anti-emetic purposes and to Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (AIDS) patients for weight loss Cocaine prescribed as a topical or a vasoconstrictive anesthetic Schedule V opiate-containing preparation (e.g., cough suppressants and antidiarrheal preparations containing paregoric). Medical judgment is required on a case-by-case basis. If satisfied that there is a valid medical reason for the confirmed positive test, the MRO will assure the driver that all information relating to the confirmed positive test and valid explanation will remain confidential."

Good day truckers. Have a D.O.T. FMCSA drug question.

Kidney stone resulted in parking truck and being admitted to ER. Pain was severe and Morphine was given.

From clearning house guidelines we are to be drug free. Is there any guidelines regarding hospital administered narcotics? How long drug will remain in body. Waivers or documentation kept with driver and cleared to drive?

Would I need to be out of work until drug test indicates all clear?

Thoughts, suggestions?

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Steve L.'s Comment
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What is your company Safety Rep telling you?

Little Chief's Comment
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Travis, very impressive details! Thank you!

Steve L. Just got off phone with my company. I wasn't able to speak with them last night.

Company flying me home for medical treatment and covering Uber to and from locations. I cant legally drive until cleared by the company's medical team. So I need documentation from my urologist, family doctor, then another CDL medical test. I haven't heard about a clearing house test. Will follow on post when I know more.

One thing is certain. Not drinking apple cider vinegar and lemon juice daily caused build up of stones and I am without income. You might see me at Pilot trying to recruit drivers to get referral bonus pay.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Travis's Comment
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Morphine has a very short half life and is usually only detectable for 3-4 days from last use. Even in heavy, chronic users it's apparently only a week.

I'd be asking the urologist, primary care doc and whoever is gonna do your med card what they need and want to see to get you back to work again.

Here is a study on heroin addicts but the detection time should be similar to morphine.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12075726/#:~:text=The%20time%20of%20detection%20in,every%20day%20for%20seven%20days.

Travis, very impressive details! Thank you!

Steve L. Just got off phone with my company. I wasn't able to speak with them last night.

Company flying me home for medical treatment and covering Uber to and from locations. I cant legally drive until cleared by the company's medical team. So I need documentation from my urologist, family doctor, then another CDL medical test. I haven't heard about a clearing house test. Will follow on post when I know more.

One thing is certain. Not drinking apple cider vinegar and lemon juice daily caused build up of stones and I am without income. You might see me at Pilot trying to recruit drivers to get referral bonus pay.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
NaeNaeInNC's Comment
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Ok, I can answer this one! Your ER discharge papers should give you a list of medications that were administered during your visit. If it is not on there, call the Health Information Management department of the hospital who owns the ER that treated you. Request a copy of the visit for "continuation of care" by a provider at home. When requesting under this heading, you get slightly more detailed information, like dosages and times, which would back up the findings in a Urine test

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Anne A. (Momma Anne) & To's Comment
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Travis, very impressive details! Thank you!

Steve L. Just got off phone with my company. I wasn't able to speak with them last night.

Company flying me home for medical treatment and covering Uber to and from locations. I cant legally drive until cleared by the company's medical team. So I need documentation from my urologist, family doctor, then another CDL medical test. I haven't heard about a clearing house test. Will follow on post when I know more.

One thing is certain. Not drinking apple cider vinegar and lemon juice daily caused build up of stones and I am without income. You might see me at Pilot trying to recruit drivers to get referral bonus pay.

I'm just stopping in, to hope you feel better, soon!! My brother had kidney stones when I was younger, and it seemed sure similar to a guy giving birth, from the pain levels (and the screaming) he encountered! Sorry, dang. Follow the advice above; feel better soon, man!

~ Anne ~

ps: ACV rocks; Goli, too. . . Which Pilot?!?!? Keep us in the loop, haha! You'll be back to good, in 3 or 4 days, it seems. Wish you well.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Little Chief's Comment
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Nae, Anne! Welcome to the post!

Great information and support. First home time in 11 weeks. I woke thinking I was in sleeper and no bunk to smack my head into. Nothing to trip on, my darn coffee maker is in another room. Matter fact so is the bathroom and kitchen. Everything is out of reach. Lol

Perhaps take time off to go to the truck dealers and look at the new innovations. Then head home to play truck movie marathon!

Oh, I see another post coming.lol

Anne A. (Momma Anne) & To's Comment
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Nae, Anne! Welcome to the post!

Great information and support. First home time in 11 weeks. I woke thinking I was in sleeper and no bunk to smack my head into. Nothing to trip on, my darn coffee maker is in another room. Matter fact so is the bathroom and kitchen. Everything is out of reach. Lol

Perhaps take time off to go to the truck dealers and look at the new innovations. Then head home to play truck movie marathon!

Oh, I see another post coming.lol

Wishing you better, good sir! Nice tanker gig/setup.

Yeah, enjoy the time OFF for sure!!! Keep us posted, too.

~ Anne ~

ps: I'll watch for that post, LoL !

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