Deciding Between FCG And A&B CDL In Grand Rapids, MI

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Princess Gear's Comment
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Hello all,

Just got my permit recently and thinking to go to a CDL school in Grand Rapids MI. Not sure which one would be better and hope some of you can give me some insights or your experience when attending these two schools.

Thank you.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Old School's Comment
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Hi Princess Gear!

I'm curious if you have specific goals or desires. Do you want to get out on the open road? There will be more opportunities for a new class A driver in an over the road type job.

Are you needing something that has you home every night? A class B job would be more suitable in that case, although there are plenty of class A local jobs also. They will be more difficult to get with no experience.

Tell us what your dream driving job is and we can give some advice. You don't have to stay local for training. There are plenty of companies providing support and income for and during the training process.

Check out these links for some helpful information.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Over The Road:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Princess Gear's Comment
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Hi old school,

Thanks for the reply. I'm looking to start OTR. Im debating between two schools at the moment and am hoping some of yall can give me an insight of how these two schools are. Thank you.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

ID Mtn Gal's Comment
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Princess Gear,

What you need to look at, since you apparently didn't read the links Old School posted for you, is to look at what those schools offer. Actually those type of schools will get you your CDL A but no more than that. Some might bring in companies to talk with you but a fair amount do not...so then you are stuck getting your own job which will be hard to do in this economy. Currently there is an overage of qualified drivers, so new drivers with no experience are having a much harder time getting hired.

Your better bet is to apply to trucking companies with schools, work for them a minimum of one year to get your experience. As long as you pass their schooling, you will have a job and that schooling is paid off. Different trucking companies have different plans for their schooling but all are good and will teach you more than independent schools.

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CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Princess Gear's Comment
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Hello MTN GAL,

Thanks for letting me know that.

The private schools that I’m currently looking at did told me they offer job placement after training. Is this still something I should look forward to or would I just be better off applying for company with school?

Sorry I’m a bit wishy washy now after knowing I might not land a job after private trucking school.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

ID Mtn Gal's Comment
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Seriously, having gone thru a private school and having had to find a company on my own, then struggle with not knowing the rules of the road as well as I should and a boss that made up his own interpretation of HOS (Hours of Service) laws (running illegal), I truly wish I had gone thru a company training program. Electronic logs pretty much put a stop to the illegal driving, but I still believe that company training and driving is a better bet.

Laura

Electronic Logs:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

NaeNaeInNC's Comment
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There are VERY GOOD reasons that TT (we) push people towards a company sponsored training program.

Also, trucking very much fits the phrase "You do not know what you don't know, until you need it, and don't know it."

The questions I had before starting this career are VERY different than the ones I would have after two and a half years doing this. Again, this is not a judgment on you personally, just a statement of the industry as a whole.

Number one, if you have any type of hiccup in your past, you will know if it's a major stumbling block, or just a speed bump. You would probably feel defeated if you went through, and passed, but then couldn't get hired anywhere. By going the company training route, they are investing money in your success. They WANT you to make use of the time and resources they have invested in you.

Number two, most of the programs pay you while you are training. This can include lodging.

Number three, as Laura said, you will have the knowledge necessary to follow your individual companies policies and procedures from day one solo.

Number four, IMO better student to instructor ratio before passing your CDL road test, and one on one road training. Having my trainer at hand, when I was still learning how to actually do the job was priceless.

Number five, once you go solo, there will be that shove out of the frying pan, and into the fire. It's scary, no matter how prepared for it you are. Put yourself in the best position for success as possible.

Number six, do everything you can, to avoid any "dedicated" account that contains the word "Dollar." In theory, it's an awesome idea. In practice, it's a career killer for many, when they are too new to understand how bad an incident stacks against you.

Hello MTN GAL,

Thanks for letting me know that.

The private schools that I’m currently looking at did told me they offer job placement after training. Is this still something I should look forward to or would I just be better off applying for company with school?

Sorry I’m a bit wishy washy now after knowing I might not land a job after private trucking school.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Company Sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Errol V.'s Comment
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Here's a bit more information for you. Not directly related to which school, but for the bigger picture.

If you are accepted into a company school, you are all but hired on with them. They do their background checks and stuff on you before you are invited to class.

Having a terminal (offices) near your home is not important. Wherever you are "based", your company will be able to get you home for your home time. Whether a load with extra time on it and routing that passes through Grand Rapids, or pick-up or deliver there, it will work out.

If you choose to go with a company school, your company will provide transportation from home to their school. These are questions you can ask a company recruiter.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

BK's Comment
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Just to make a point clear, if a school says they offer job placement after completing the school, it is not a GUARANTEE that you will be able to find a job. Some schools have good connections but some not so much.

But as stated by others in their comments, getting accepted to training with paid company training will get you a job unless you fail their program.

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