Serious Question About Random UA

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Drew D.'s Comment
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So I'll get right to the point..

I just got out of surgery for an ORIF on my fibula. 11 screws and 2 plates.

I've been on workers comp at home for two weeks on various drugs including Hydrocodone. [Obviously prescribed]

My manger calls me today and informs me that I was selected for random. He apparently tried to get me out of it, but was unable despite the fact that I'm under orders for no weight bearing and no driving.

Now as ****ed as I am about this gross incompetence, I'm going to waddle my broken ass in there tomorrow, but my concern is that I'm clearly going to **** hot for opioids and whatever else. They even gave me fentenyl prior to surgery.

So what do I have to do to prevent ending up in the clearing house? I'm all above deck on everything, this is all medical and workers comp related, but after witnessing such a ridiculous display of idiocy, I'm concerned that I will get flagged despite my credible alibi.

So what steps can I take to protect my CDL and CMA incase someone screws up somewhere?

Thanks

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
PJ's Comment
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Take all your documentation with you. Should be all you need.

Your employer has no control over the situation really. They belong to a consortium and its all random.

Drew D.'s Comment
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Kind of ridiculous that you can't postpone over a legitimate handicap. The amount of headache this is going to cause just to collect a urine sample can't be overstated.

That said, I will be bringing everything pertaining to my case as far as documentation. Hope someone remembers to include the information.

Take all your documentation with you. Should be all you need.

Your employer has no control over the situation really. They belong to a consortium and its all random.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Stevo Reno's Comment
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Yes really dumb, since "Knowing" you are out for an injury, work comp related as well. To be pulled in for randoms. Luckily, they didn't give you like a 2 hour time frame to appear for it. Like my 1 and only random my 1st year, had 2 hours to get Uber'd from our CAT delivery, back east. DM sent car right to me, as we just got to the guard shack. They had me get the wee wee and breath test for booze, DR almost forgot that 1, I reminded him I HAVE to have that too!

By the time my co worker was offloaded, I was back at CAT, as he was rollin' to the gate out (slow offload) I have that in my right knee, since 2012, 2 "T" brackets, and 9 screws, from some cracks. x-rays, it looks like a wonky hardware store bin....Sometimes does set off the bells on metal detectors @ airports/malls here in PH

Your documents "should" be good enough, even though I really don't see the point even having to test just because of your condition, and not even driving while recovering.....Duhhhh, Ya CAN'T fix Stoooopid oi

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

PackRat's Comment
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If it's documented for no weight bearing and limited movements by your medical professionals, I'd have been in touch with your company's safety. If the office still insists, I would do the sample.

Next, I'd be contacting workers compensation attorneys, then filling out job applications.

I've heard some asinine things over the years, but this is in the Top 5.

Rob T.'s Comment
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From the FMCSA Best Practices For DOT Random

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I'd say you have a legitimate excuse to get out of it. Unfortunately if they don't budge you should get the test done regardless so it doesn't go down as a refusal. Did you get a post incident/injury drug screen?

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Rob T.'s Comment
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From the way I interpret this, they've already violated testing procedures for not instructing you to immediately report.

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Have you talked to Human Resources or safety/compliance at your employer? Also even if you're able to get out of this random I'd suggest getting a work comp attorney and consider employment elsewhere as Packrat mentioned, if they're that foolish. It's unfortunate that many of us (myself included) are fooled into thinking our employer will do what's right or take care of us. At the end of the day it's business and that's it. I'm not familiar with the office side of things but based on the screenshots I provided it should allow them to have a different driver randomly selected in your place.

Drew D.'s Comment
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Hey all,

Thanks for the input. As ridiculous as it is, I have no issue [aside from the overwhelming annoyance] of doing the test. I have nothing to hide.

I am just scared of some box not being checked and ending up in the clearing house or losing my CDL. I just don't trust people, especially these days, to get anything right. But I'll definitely be looking into the attorney thing just to cover my bases. And yes, I am non-weight bearing and it is heavily documented.

If it's documented for no weight bearing and limited movements by your medical professionals, I'd have been in touch with your company's safety. If the office still insists, I would do the sample.

Next, I'd be contacting workers compensation attorneys, then filling out job applications.

I've heard some asinine things over the years, but this is in the Top 5.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
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