J & R Shugal

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Paul C.'s Comment
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Good evening friends, i posted here a few weeks ago, I am the guy that was fired over a seatbelt violation on a level 3 inspection, I’m still very angry over it for I know I had it on properly, to those who responded I want to thank you for advice and support. Now for the good news, I am onboarding with j & r shugal on 3/5, the job offer is good in my estimation, they are offering me .57 cpm , 1k sign on bonus, 21 days out 4 days home, so averaging 2500 miles a week it’s a 1400 $ a week gig not great but acceptable, What I am hoping for is if anyone out there has worked for j& r and could give some intel on the pros and cons equipment company culture etc that would be very much appreciated, thanks in advance.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
PackRat's Comment
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Yeah, I drove there until I got fired a year ago. Hope you like the back roads for travel. They don't do toll roads 95% of the time and are strict on forced routing. Dispatch did not do any load assignments generally from 1500 on Friday until 0900 on Monday, so be ready to sit. Maintenance staff was good. Most of the management never drove trucks. I've seen many of their trucks lately that were not Internationals or Kenworths. I wish you good luck there.

Paul C.'s Comment
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Yeah you’re not the first one to bring up the toll road thing, do you think I can ave 1400 1500 weekly gross there, thanks

PackRat's Comment
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2022 numbers for me there:

110,345 paid miles

123,447 actual miles driven

I've never paid attention to gross pay, only net. I saw almost $59K over 276 days driving.

99.4% of the trips I was underpaid anywhere from 6% to 13% of the actual miles. A trip could be from one side of Kansas to the other on I-70 (423 miles) and it was a given that I would get paid for 378 miles. This was every trip losing a minimum of 6 to 13%. Some trip were worse.

I hope you have a better time, but these are facts and I can back them up with a paper trail.

Dan67's Comment
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I've never heard of a company that pays actual odometer miles. They go by statute miles or zip miles and practical miles.

PackRat's Comment
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I've never heard of a company that pays actual odometer miles. They go by statute miles or zip miles and practical miles.

That's nice. Of all the companies I've driven for, I've never been anywhere except J&R Schugel where I routinely, without fail, was paid between 6% to 13% less than what I drove every single trip, all the while following the company's forced routing.

Where I'm at now I get paid within 1.5% to 2.5% of all the actual miles that I drive, and that's on my routing using common sense.

This is a specific answer, for a specific question that concerns a specific company.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

BK's Comment
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I've never heard of a company that pays actual odometer miles. They go by statute miles or zip miles and practical miles.

Johnsonville Sausage, private fleet of 50 trucks pays hub miles. And they still need a few drivers last I heard. Pretty good gig.

Turtle's Comment
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I've never heard of a company that pays actual odometer miles. They go by statute miles or zip miles and practical miles.

I get paid for every mile I turn, even if it's 20 extra miles to go around a mountain instead of taking the goat path over the top, or 46 miles to take the Tappan zee instead of the GWB, or if I miss an exit and have to drive 20 miles to the next exit and back.

Ryan B.'s Comment
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I've never heard of a company that pays actual odometer miles. They go by statute miles or zip miles and practical miles.

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I get paid for every mile I turn, even if it's 20 extra miles to go around a mountain instead of taking the goat path over the top, or 46 miles to take the Tappan zee instead of the GWB, or if I miss an exit and have to drive 20 miles to the next exit and back.

For those reading who may not know, Turtle has a substantial amount of driving experience with a proven record. Jobs with all hub miles paid are not easy to find and certainly require a track record of being dependable and punctual. Drivers like Turtle are worth their weight in gold.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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