Question About Pre-trip

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Cristian M.'s Comment
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Hello fellow truckers. I apologize if this is the wrong forum for this question.

I work at a wet hose fueling company , I usually go to the rack and preload trucks with fuel so other drivers can go out and work. The company is now making me do the pre-trip before taking the truck to the rack which is 200 feet away from our yard. The thing is that I'm not driving these trucks for the rest of my shift, is it legal that I do someone elses pre-trip so the company saves time when the drivers , pretty sure I'll be liable in case I miss something important doing the pre-trip for another driver.

Thanks for your response.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Errol V.'s Comment
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Commercial aircraft are always pre-tripped. But it's not the pilots who do it, the ground crew does. Yes that are trained for that job.

Do you have any training for doing pre-trips? (We have lots of info & help here.)

Stevo Reno's Comment
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The driver HAS to do a pre-trip, regardless !! Having you do them, without proper knowledge or training is not a smart or legal option I'd think. Since drivers HAVE to log their pre-trips onto their onboard logs for DOT.

I can see them having you do a quick once over, for any obvious leaks or loose things around the tractor. So you could alert the driver ahead of time perhaps, if you even interact with them.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Ryan B.'s Comment
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Hello fellow truckers. I apologize if this is the wrong forum for this question.

I work at a wet hose fueling company , I usually go to the rack and preload trucks with fuel so other drivers can go out and work. The company is now making me do the pre-trip before taking the truck to the rack which is 200 feet away from our yard. The thing is that I'm not driving these trucks for the rest of my shift, is it legal that I do someone elses pre-trip so the company saves time when the drivers , pretty sure I'll be liable in case I miss something important doing the pre-trip for another driver.

Thanks for your response.

The company can assign you the responsibility of pre-tripping equipment so that they can fix issues before a driver takes any equipment out on the road. However, the CDL holder actually driving the equipment on public roads is responsible for any issues that the equipment may have. How an individual company operates on their own property is up to that company. At the same time, they are not following the law, if they tell their drivers to log pre-trip on-duty time and to not perform pre-trip inspections.

Pre-trip Inspection:

A pre-trip inspection is a thorough inspection of the truck completed before driving for the first time each day.

Federal and state laws require that drivers inspect their vehicles. Federal and state inspectors also may inspect your vehicles. If they judge a vehicle to be unsafe, they will put it “out of service” until it is repaired.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Errol V.'s Comment
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Hey Brett! I asked Jimmy™ this question:

Can another person do a truck pre-trip for a driver?

There was no answer, the text box just reverted to "Submit".

I asked this about 5:30 am. Maybe Jimmy™ hasn't finished his coffee yet

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

Pianoman's Comment
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is it legal that I do someone elses pre-trip so the company saves time when the drivers , pretty sure I'll be liable in case I miss something important doing the pre-trip for another driver.

There’s nothing illegal about requiring you to pretrip the trucks but it would be illegal for them to have their drivers that drive the trucks afterwards skip the pretrip citing that you already did it. No driver that’s worth their salt would skip their pretrip even if the company said to.

As far as being liable, the driver is the one who is liable if something is messed up on the truck and causes an accident. The regulations are very clear that the driver is responsible for inspecting his or her own vehicle prior to driving it, even if someone else already inspected and/or drove the truck immediately beforehand.

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