Knight To Get AI Netradyne Cameras

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Davy A.'s Comment
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I've been really busy and haven't had time to reply. I really appreciated OS's reply. I may come off as though I'm bashing Knight at times. Rest assured, I'm not.

When I was there, I built relationships that I still have today, and if it were to fit my circumstances, I would return there if I felt like it matched up to my needs and wants. In fact, recently, I had discussed returning as o/o leased on to them with my old TM there. I chose to purchase a house instead, but that's a whole other story.

I enjoyed a solid niche, and like OS, their business structure of having the terminals have so much autonomy benefitted me greatly. Very true that their flatbed division is a potentially much higher earning division as well. I also maintained great relationships with people in corporate as well.

My grievances with their policies are just that, it's policies and systems. There are very little human input on a daily basis that can change them. I really identify with just wanting to make things work. It's a large part of the reason that I stayed as long as I did.

I look at cameras and subjects like this more towards the demographic of drivers as a whole. In general, if we allow it by our actions, individually, it allows the carriers to continue to engage, and allows the insurance companies to dictate it to the carriers. Where as if the drivers continually vacate carriers that use cameras, the carriers will eventually be forced to use insurance companies who don't require them. It takes a long time to accomplish, but eventually it does, it's the beauty of capitalism.

As we always say, there is no perfect company. I think of it as always a give and take. The company I'm now with, fits my operating style and needs and wants very well. I can't stress enough though, that based on my experience with Knight, I would definitely recommend them for an individual coming into this industry. Should they find success, they could make a reasoned decision later if it still worked for them or if they needed to move on.

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Zen Joker 's Comment
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My carrier has had Netradyne since I started 2.5 years ago. I too had initial concerns, but here is the deal. One reality we have to face is that carriers will continue to invest in things that protects them from the thousands of ambulance chaser attorneys out there (look at all the billboards we pass for truck accident attorneys).

As far as the company "spying" on you all the time, slow down for a moment and ask yourself this question....do they have the staff and capacity to watch all drivers all the time? If you can't stand the idea of being on camera, then you have much bigger problems in the ever developing police state the world is becoming. Also, you can't yell privacy rights when you are operating their equipment. In the next 10-15 years the cameras will probably be in all highway tractors anyways.

I hope for the drivers most concerned in this thread, that their safety dept.'s gets the cameras and the software tweaked properly to reflect the driver's actual habits as it impacts their bonuses. The software can have its bugs that's for sure. I find the Driver I game quite fun, but I am a very odd duck.

Hope Knight, Prime and anyone else gets it set up fairly for the drivers.

NaeNaeInNC's Comment
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That's just it though, Driver-I wants to "Gamify Safety." Safety isn't a game. I don't want a driver to be "driving to the score" and ignoring the reality of what is going on around them in real time. I don't want them making decisions or not based on what will or will not trigger the camera.

I want decisions to be made split second by the driver. The person actually in the conditions at hand.

Zen Joker 's Comment
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You can't chase the score without maintaining a very good following distance at all times, like 4 seconds plus. No hard braking, no hard turns, no running red lights, no blowing stop signs. These are all behaviors that make a driver safer by default. Just food for thought. Again it depends on how its set up. Hope it gets rolled out and tweaked to make sense for the drivers at the major carriers.

That's just it though, Driver-I wants to "Gamify Safety." Safety isn't a game. I don't want a driver to be "driving to the score" and ignoring the reality of what is going on around them in real time. I don't want them making decisions or not based on what will or will not trigger the camera.

I want decisions to be made split second by the driver. The person actually in the conditions at hand.

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Trucker Kearsey 's Comment
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But i know drivers who are slamming on brakes as soon as light turns yellow. This resulted in a car slamming into one from behind. There are plwnty of instances of this type of thing.

We dont want to make legal U turns cause of the camera... then can wind up in really difficult areas to manuever because the camera decided the controlled, green arrow, extra space given for trucks was unsafe.

Zen Joker 's Comment
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You are better off running the close yellow/red light. Hard braking has a harsher impact on scoring. Hard braking at an intersection adds more weight to the incident. A red light violation (light changes red as you are going thru the intersection) is an event the scoring impact will lessen as you successfully stop at red lights moving forward to month's end. Any close red light violations can be reviewed by safety department and can be neutralized.

But i know drivers who are slamming on brakes as soon as light turns yellow. This resulted in a car slamming into one from behind. There are plwnty of instances of this type of thing.

We dont want to make legal U turns cause of the camera... then can wind up in really difficult areas to manuever because the camera decided the controlled, green arrow, extra space given for trucks was unsafe.

Trucker Kearsey 's Comment
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Not necessarily true. These cameras are very customizable to each company. Prime cam set rhe following distance at 3.6 sec.. while Kmoght could do 4 sec. One company can violate for running a yellow light while another can say running red is a violation. Each company sets the severity for the violation.

I am soo done with it.

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Larry T.'s Comment
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I struggle with a 2 second following distance and anything below gets triggered. I'm guessing the adaptive cruise control get s it back to 3.6 seconds before it get s triggered? How long do you have? I can't imagine getting back to 360 feet with a semi passing you going 1 mph faster. 350 feet is a lonnnnng time.

Not necessarily true. These cameras are very customizable to each company. Prime cam set rhe following distance at 3.6 sec.. while Kmoght could do 4 sec. One company can violate for running a yellow light while another can say running red is a violation. Each company sets the severity for the violation.

I am soo done with it.

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Trucker Kearsey 's Comment
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I never have following distance issues. Here is how...

I leave jakes on with cruise control. When someone is passing, i turn iff cruise, expecting then to jump in front of me. Because i am slowing down, i often get gold stars for creating distance.... when they are far enough ahead, i then turn cruise back on.

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