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I'm reading a lot of site and not getting it. Did they get rid of the 34 hour reset. Please explain

I'm reading a lot of site and not getting it. Did they get rid of the 34 hour reset. Please explain

No.

Before 2013 the rule was you could take your 34hr reset at any period, then in July of 2013 they changed the rules, 2 consecutive periods between 1am and 5am and could only do a reset after 160hrs . So basically every 6.75 days. They also issued the 8hr break rule which doesn't change.

The 34 hour reset rule just changed again back to what it was PRIOR TO July 2013. Now you can take your 34 hour reset without the 2 consecutive 1 am to 5 am periods, and there is no 7 day in between period requirement anymore. You do still need to take a 30 minute break at or before your 8th hour working. I usually do mine around the 6th or 7th hour into my work day.

Nothing wrong with that 30 minute break.. and in my opinion... If you have the time do two.

Before 2013 the rule was you could take your 34hr reset at any period, then in July of 2013 they changed the rules, 2 consecutive periods between 1am and 5am and could only do a reset after 160hrs . So basically every 6.75 days. They also issued the 8hr break rule which doesn't change.

I'm still confused. Do you reset only if you hit 70 hours in the 8 day period?

You normally can only work 70 hours in an 8 day period, but by doing the 34 hour reset you "clear" your previous 7 days hours giving you a clean slate to work again. It'll just start you back at 0 for the 70 hours.

Before 2013 the rule was you could take your 34hr reset at any period, then in July of 2013 they changed the rules, 2 consecutive periods between 1am and 5am and could only do a reset after 160hrs . So basically every 6.75 days. They also issued the 8hr break rule which doesn't change.

I'm still confused. Do you reset only if you hit 70 hours in the 8 day period?

Pretty much.

You "recapture" the hours that drop off from the "7th prior day" at midnight - so you can run on the remaining hours - or do a reset. But these usually only amount to less than a full day of driving.

The "34 Hour Reset" - RESETS the 70 hour clock to ZERO. But you have to sit for the FULL 34 HOURS.

The rule that changed (that you mentioned in your original post) did not "GET RID OF" the 34 hour reset completely. The reset has existed for a number of years. In 2013, FMCSA changed it, and made it MANDATORY that you had to have TWO PERIODS between 1AM & 5AM in that 34 hour period, in order for it to be a "legal reset".

Congress "suspended" ONLY THAT PORTION OF THE RULE (the 2 periods between 1-5AM), pending a study on it's effectiveness - which means you can START AND END your reset at ANY TIME - as long as it is a CONTINUOUS 34 HOURS.

Rick

That helps. So really, I could work everyday as long as my 8 day total is under 70 hours.

That helps. So really, I could work everyday as long as my 8 day total is under 70 hours.

Exactly.

That helps. So really, I could work everyday as long as my 8 day total is under 70 hours.

Exactly.

Keep in mind, that most drivers don't actually drive their 11 hours in a 14 hour day - between waiting at shippers/receivers/etc. But if you somehow WERE to actually get (for example) that 11 hours a day - for 6 days in a row - in the 7th day, you would only have 4 hours available to drive before you hit your 7- and have to sit.

This is also why drivers will usually go IMMEDIATELY to line 1 or 2 once they reach a destination. ALL HOURS from lines 3 & 4 count towards the 70 hour clock.

Now - "technically" - if you're if you've arrived at a shipper/receiver and you're waiting to get loaded/unloaded - you're supposed to be ON DUTY (not driving) and this affects your 70 hour clock. Most drivers will log that time as OFF DUTY or SLEEPER BERTH. You may spend 4-5 hours a day, waiting at/for a dock - you don't want to burn those up on your 70 hour clock.

This doesn't affect your 14 hour daily clock (unless you spend 8 continuous hours on line 2 - Sleeper Berth - then you get those 8 hours back). You still only have 14 hours from the time you come on duty, to drive your 11 hours.

If you're getting a lot of days in a row - with a lot of line 3 & 4 (On-Duty/Driving) time, you will soon get to a point where you DON'T HAVE a full 11 hours to drive in a day. You may only get 4-5 hours, and that doesn't get you very far. At that point - a 34 hour reset - will zero the clock.

Most guys hate to sit for that 34 hours - can't make $$ if the wheels aren't rolling. After awhile on the road - drivers get a feel for how to manage their clocks most effectively, so they don't have to do resets or be stuck without the required hours left to make pickups/deliveries on schedule.

It's confusing when you're first trying to get a grasp of it - but it becomes easier with time. Most companies are on ELECTRONIC LOGS now - so you can look at your day and weekly re-caps as they run.

Rick