How Can You Do That? A Puzzler For New And Future Drivers

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Dave Reid's Comment
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Call me ignorant, but I thought we weren't able to log On Duty Not Driving past our 70 without getting an HOS violation. Since the 70h clock ticks when on either line 3 or 4, it makes sense to me that we're unable to log line 4 if we're out of 70 hours. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

UHC, I now understand your question better, having learned more about SNI.

The government allows us to do non-driving work as long as we wish past the 8/11/14/70 hour clocks. However, SCHNEIDER policy does not allow it. Maybe some other companies have similar policies. My prior company did not.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
PackRat's Comment
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Bumping this back up. A very interesting read that some may have not seen.

PackRat's Comment
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I just noticed this is the second time I’ve bumped this one, so it must be a good read! Check out the link on page two and read all of that one, too. Great stuff!

Rob D.'s Comment
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I will take a crack at this because I had looked at the HOS regs after Mike D. post about the 8-2 split:

34 hours from pick up to delivery:

1. 10 hours driving and 30 minute break covers 600 miles; 10 hour break; 10 hours driving and 30 minute break covers 600 miles: Total 31 hours. 2. 10 hours driving and 30 minute break covers 550 miles; 8 hours sleeper birth (8-2 sleeper birth rule); 10 hours driving and 30 minute break covers 550 miles; 2 hours off duty; 2 hours (new 11/14 clock) driving covers 100 miles: Total 34 hours.

What did I get wrong?

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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I just saw this myself, and really didn’t see an issue. 19.5 hours to drive the mileage, and a 10 hour in between. Plenty of extra time in there for 30 minute breaks, pre and post trip, fueling, etc.

The problem I would have with it is what to do after, as most of my shippers/consignees wont let you sleep on the property. So I also have to worry about having tine to get to safe parking. Company policy does not allow parking on the road or ramps either.

I regularly run through Massachusetts going from Buffalo to Maine. I can never rely on being able to park ANYWHERE in Massachusetts so I run to a truck stop literally in the NY/MASS line, take my 10, then run to Maine and back to the same spot and take my next 10. I have pulled in with single digits remaining on my clock. The lowest so far was 2 minutes.

Split berth never helps me, unless I am missing something, because I almost always run my clock out before I stop.

I just ran 1800 miles in 4 days, including 3 drop and hooks, and a live load and unload that took 7 hours total, and drove from S Phila to Conshocken At 0-10 mph in rush hour traffic. Took 2 hours

Consignee:

The customer the freight is being delivered to. Also referred to as "the receiver". The shipper is the customer that is shipping the goods, the consignee is the customer receiving the goods.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Drop And Hook:

Drop and hook means the driver will drop one trailer and hook to another one.

In order to speed up the pickup and delivery process a driver may be instructed to drop their empty trailer and hook to one that is already loaded, or drop their loaded trailer and hook to one that is already empty. That way the driver will not have to wait for a trailer to be loaded or unloaded.

Robsteeler's Comment
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Unfortunately, Schneider doesn't allow split berth, and we cannot work past our 70 in any way. We also have no PC allowed so I tend to get stuck overnight at places instead of making it home for home time. I like some of these tips though. These are a lot more specific than some of the general comments I've read recently. Thanks.

Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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Unfortunately, Schneider doesn't allow split berth, and we cannot work past our 70 in any way. We also have no PC allowed so I tend to get stuck overnight at places instead of making it home for home time. I like some of these tips though. These are a lot more specific than some of the general comments I've read recently. Thanks.

Wolding is extremely good at getting you home.

Marc Lee's Comment
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Thanks for this Old School.

I can read information and retain it, but I do so much better when I see it in practice. I learned something about the clock that makes complete sense, yet I wasn't looking at it correctly. I had always assumed once your 10 or 14 is over the other one immediately starts no matter what. I see now that is more the case after being on duty but not neccessarily the case when coming from off duty.

Thanks again.

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