Carrying A Weapon In A CMV

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Left Seat Warmer's Comment
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A little late to the party so I'll consider this a thread resurrection.

So I recently became a firearm owner ( about 7 months ago ) and I guess you could say I dived in headfirst. I hit the range every time I'm home, take multiple training courses, have my CCW ( with reciprocity in roughly 30 states ), among other things. I'm always researching state laws, watching videos, reading articles ( blah blah blah, y'all get the point, lol ).

First and foremost, you must be legally eligible to own a firearm ( duh ). Meaning you're not a convicted felon or convicted of a felony/misdemeanor that falls under the Lautenberg Amendment ( however, a felon can own a black powder gun, as they aren't legally classified as firearms ).

Secondly, you want to obtain a CCW from your state of residence as this is a tangible, government issued proof of your legal right to carry a weapon in public ( more about why that's important later ). Obviously, different states have varying reciprocity so make sure you're aware of states that recognize your CCW. For the most part, you can carry without issue in those states, just be aware of the different laws that may be in play. For example, my state does not have duty to inform, or force of law ( duty to inform means informing a police officer that you are carrying a weapon immediately upon making contact with the officer, and force of law means those pesky "No Gun" signs have the force of law behind them ). I have reciprocity with Ohio, and Ohio has both duty to inform and force of law.

As I'm sure we all know, there are some states that are notoriously not friendly to firearm owners. In states like New York and California ( unless you're a resident with a CCW from those states ), there's not much you can do legally outside of the Federal Firearm Transportation Act, which renders your weapon utterly useless for self defense. However, I was surprised to learn that I can still carry legally in Illinois, a state that has reciprocity with no one. But if you look into the laws there, you'll find that if you can legally own a firearm and have the legal right to carry in public in your state of residence ( ie: a CCW ), then you can legally carry a loaded handgun in a privately owned vehicle. Provided that you do not exit the vehicle with the firearm, and that the firearm is secured inside the vehicle when the vehicle is unattended ( lock the doors ). New Mexico has a similar law. I was actually involved in a minor fender bender in Chicago, and the responding state trooper was informed of my firearm upon contact. I was issued a citation or arrested for my gun ( the other driver was ticketed for the incident as he was at fault. Definitely invest in a dashcam! ). Also, the best way to avoid police interactions is to not break the law. Don't speed, don't drive in the third left lane, don't tailgate, etc.

As far as company policy goes: not ALL companies ( or even shippers/receivers for that matter ) have an anti-gun policy. The company I currently drive for doesn't have a policy banning firearms in their trucks. They do have one prohibiting them at the terminal , but it's not enforced. They are aware that multiple employees, myself included, carry on the trucks and on the premises. As for shippers/receivers with a "No Guns" sign, I typically only come across those in states with more stringent gun laws. You can always just leave your weapon in your truck while inside. If you're in a state that doesn't have force of law, you can carry it concealed inside, just don't advertise ( I mean, isn't that the point of concealed carry anyways? Lol ). If you're company has a no gun policy, you can always try to find another company to drive for. If that's not a viable option, you can always adopt a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.

Ultimately, it's important to keep in mind that prevention is often the best defense. Typically speaking, most criminals are looking for a target of opportunity, a soft target. Always look alert when out of your truck, not staring at your phone. Always keep your truck doors locked, even when you're driving. Avoid parking in areas where you're the only truck there ( or only one of a few, especially even the area isn't well lit ). Something extra that I do is I have a small ratcheting strap that I use to secure my doors together with, making them virtually impossible to open from the outside without first breaking, then climbing through one of the windows ( which won't be an easy task, lol ). My .45 is the last resort. If someone is that determined to get into my truck despite the extra measures I've used to make it a harder target, than odds are it's going to be a life or death situation once they get in, and I want every advantage I can get.

Keep in mind that this is not legal advice, I am not an attorney. I'm just a driver who wants to return home to his wife and daughter in one piece after my tour is complete. Always look into the laws for the state you reside in, as well as any and all states that you will be traveling to and/or through.

Stay safe out there drivers!

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Susan D. 's Comment
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Left Seat, I too am a gun enthusiast, but I do leave my weapons at home when on the truck. I started this thread only to play devil's advocate.

Interestingly enough, there are now 12 states who allow concealed carry and require no permit whatsoever.

Old School's Comment
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Well, we haven't heard from you in over four years. It's great to hear from you, but we consider it not a very good idea to carry a firearm in a truck. I have a long well known relationship with the shooting sports - love the guns and the outdoors. I never carry in my truck, even though I am licensed to carry in Texas. The way the various state and local laws are, and the various well posted prohibitions at almost every customer's property I go on, there's just way too many compromises you make to carry in a commercial vehicle. I've never felt unsafe out here.

PJ's Comment
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I am retired law enforcement and legal to carry in all 50 states, but I don't. My company does have a no firearm policy plus most customers do as well. The don't ask don't tell stance is very risky. Your very correct about crooks looking for soft targets. Be alert and use common sense and you will be fine. In over 5 years I never once have felt I needed a firearm.

Buckaroo B.'s Comment
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When I drove in the 90's I carried a handgun for a couple of years as an O/O. I quit carrying after getting loaded to visit our neighbor to the north. Going from WI to Nova Scotia did not afford me the opportunity to secure my weapon before leaving the country. I made the trip and had to get creative. After that experience I decided to leave the gun at home. I've been in some sketchy areas at night picking up loads and swapping trailers in unsecured lots ( S. Chicago and South Central LA) but never had any issues. Situational awareness and getting in/out fast is how I handled it.

BK's Comment
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I don’t know what prompted the re-boot of this thread, but it’s only natural for it to come up every so often.

Personally, I don’t own a gun but I do believe in self defense. We all know that there is no load worth your life, but also your life may be threatened. Remote possibility, but still something to think about.

I carry a can of Raid Wasp and Hornet spray in my drivers side door. This will shoot 20’. It’s been called the poor man’s mace. Supposedly it will stop a bear. And it kills wasps and hornets.

When I was in school, Schneider strongly emphasized their no weapon policy, in the truck or on the person. I asked my classroom instructor if I was going to have to get my hands amputated. Still waiting for the answer.

Tractor Man's Comment
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I dived in headfirst

Wow...........another human being that knows the past tense of the word dive!! A DOVE is a BIRD.

I blame my Mom, for knowing this. God bless Her soul. She was a spelling and grammar nazi!!

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OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Mik D.'s Comment
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A Dallas cop who carried when he was off duty in a bar told me, " id rather be judged by six then be six feet under.", not same situation, but the thought applies..

PackRat's Comment
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I dived in headfirst

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Wow...........another human being that knows the past tense of the word dive!! A DOVE is a BIRD.

I blame my Mom, for knowing this. God bless Her soul. She was a spelling and grammar nazi!!

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Mee two!!

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Junkyard Dog's Comment
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So this is my first journey into Idaho tonight and I was checking the trucker's app to find a place to park. I wanted to go farther than I did but one of the spots I was going to park at advised not to park here since it was on reservation. Supposedly one of the drivers a few months back had his truck broken into by the locals and he didn't have much money on him so they beat the hell out of him almost to death. All I have with me right now is a hammer. I do have concealed carry permit for Iowa but I have considered carrying one of my weapons because I have been to Chicago, Detroit, Boston and I have been in some really crappy areas overnight. This really needs to be addressed by the feds. In fact some of the places I have delivered I have received messages from the load planners to keep the padlock on the truck until the delivery is made even if I'm in the yard of the receiver because of the risk of theft. This is just freaking crazy.

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