Ohio Temp Permit Laws

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>>--HuntinDoug-->'s Comment
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I just got off the phone with the local CDL school I will be attending in Jan. I'm a detail person, so I'm trying to get everything lined up early so there are no surprises... or at least minimize them. She suggested that instead of waiting to get my temps on the 4th day of CDL class, I should go ahead and get my permit, and take the Hasmat, Double/Triple & the Tanker endorsement tests. She said I would get a $27 refund from the school since the testing fees are included in the tuition. She also said if I go back later to get even 1 endorsement, I will have to pay for a new license too.

To you guy's that have been there: What's your thoughts... Is getting them early a good idea, or is it a potential waste of time & money?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Old School's Comment
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Doug, they gave you some very good advice. I always recommend that you do it that way. You will find that when you are at school you will be way ahead of everyone else. People go to these schools totally unprepared for what they are getting into, and they will be sweating bullets trying to get all that information down for the permit test. It is one level of the stress you will already have behind you.

Use our High Road Training Program to do your studying and you will ace those tests, including your endorsements. That is the approach I took and it worked great.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Errol V.'s Comment
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Yes, Doug, early - on your own time. That way while everyone else is study for the permit you can start getting some of the real stuff!

>>--HuntinDoug-->'s Comment
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Thanks guys! I got the OH CDL book about a month ago, and have been reading through it, and answering the questions at the end of each chapter. I just started doing the High road training program. By the way... It's awesome!

I do have a couple more questions: What questions are on the test to get your temps? Is it just a few questions, or, is it the same as the written test to get your lisence?

The reason I ask is I will be studying the specific chapters on Hazmat , triples, doubles , etc... What else should I study when I go to get my temps?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

>>--HuntinDoug-->'s Comment
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Sorry for all the detailed questions... I forgot to mention, I have got conflicting info from local drivers, and info on the internet. Some have told me the permit test IS the written test... Others have told me there is a written test for the permit, then you have to take another written test at the same time you take the road test. I'm trying to study only whats needed for now (temps & endorsements) so I don't go into "information overload" in CDL school...

Thanks again guys... I can't imagine going through this process without the info & knowledge here on TT.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Errol V.'s Comment
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I have got conflicting info from local drivers, and info on the internet. Some have told me the permit test IS the written test..

You know, whatever your question is, you always get conflicting info from local drivers!

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The written (multiple choice) test is what gets you the permit, then for your final CDL testing, you get the skills (driving) test.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
>>--HuntinDoug-->'s Comment
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Awesome... Thanks Errol! I'm gonna star cramming for the test on Friday. Then the following week, or the next week (depending on my confidence level) I'll go take the permit, and the endorsement tests.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Here is how our High Road Training Program breaks down:

To Get Your CDL Permit:

  • Rules & Regulations
  • Driving Safely
  • Transporting Cargo Safely
  • Air Brakes
  • Combination Vehicles
  • Pre-Trip Inspection
  • Driving Exam

To get your CDL endorsements which are optional but highly recommend:

  • Transporting Passengers
  • Doubles And Triples
  • Tankers
  • Hazardous Materials

Two sections we've built ourselves with info you'll need for everyday life on the road:

  • Logbook
  • Weight & Balance

Two sections for anyone considering flatbed:

  • Cargo Securement
  • New York State Coil Endorsement

Pre-trip Inspection:

A pre-trip inspection is a thorough inspection of the truck completed before driving for the first time each day.

Federal and state laws require that drivers inspect their vehicles. Federal and state inspectors also may inspect your vehicles. If they judge a vehicle to be unsafe, they will put it “out of service” until it is repaired.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Logbook:

A written or electronic record of a driver's duty status which must be maintained at all times. The driver records the amount of time spent driving, on-duty not driving, in the sleeper berth, or off duty. The enforcement of the Hours Of Service Rules (HOS) are based upon the entries put in a driver's logbook.

Combination Vehicle:

A vehicle with two separate parts - the power unit (tractor) and the trailer. Tractor-trailers are considered combination vehicles.

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

Scott D's Comment
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Hey Doug, my wife and I are in CDL school in Hamilton, OH. When you go to take your "written" test for your permit, you go to the BMV testing station in your county (or your area if you are closer to a testing station in another county). You have to pass the General Knowledge test before you can take any others. After passing General Knowledge you take Air Brakes. After passing Air Brakes you then take Combination Vehicles. After passing all three you can take the other endorsement tests (tankers, doubles/triples, HazMat. You can even take school bus and passenger if you want). The BMV has your pass/fail results in the computer. Make sure to request a print out of what tests you have passed if they don't automatically give it to you, for your records. Of course you only need to have passed GK, AB, and Combos to get your permit.

Now let's say you pass every test except one of the endorsements (we'll use Tankers for example). You can still go get your temps, or plastic as they are referred to around here. You just go to the section of the BMV that issues the license (it looks just like your Operator's license but says "Temp Instr Permit ID" up top), pay your money and get going. Do not "turn in" your Operator's license though - you still need that.

Now let's say you take and pass that elusive tanker test, if you go back to the BMV license place and want that added to your Temp permit, you will have to pay again for the license (what a racket), as they add the endorsement/update your license and have to print you out another one. But, if you pass the tanker test BEFORE you go to the license place and get your temps, you only pay once (you have some time after you pass the tests to actually go get your temps).

So now let's say you paid for your temps and then go and pass the last elusive endorsement test but don't want to pay another $27 to add that endorsement to your temps. No worries. When you pass the pre-trip, maneuvers, and road test you have to go pay the state again for your official CDL-A, so then the last endorsement will be put on your license at that time.

Clear as mud?

So, you pay every time you get your license. However, each "written" test is free to take. I say "written" because they are actually done on a computer. And it's pretty cool because you get instant feedback on each question - it tells you whether your answer was correct or wrong. If wrong it tells you what the correct answer was. It also keeps a count on how many you have correct and wrong so you know how close you are to passing or failing. And once you have answered enough questions to pass, the test is over.

I hope this helps. You may have already known all of this. If so, sorry. Just wanted to share because we just went through this in the same state (hope I didn't come across as a know-it-all).

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Combination Vehicle:

A vehicle with two separate parts - the power unit (tractor) and the trailer. Tractor-trailers are considered combination vehicles.

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

Bmv:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

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