From My Experience So Far As A Rookie

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G-Town's Comment
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We're daft? You do realize that's not the fmcsa handbook i hope. That's another companies personal take on information. Here's the actual fmcsa section regarding pre-trip insection.

section 396.11

Before driving a motor vehicle, the driver shall:

(a) Be satisfied that the motor vehicle is in safe operating condition;

(b) Review the last driver vehicle inspection report; and

(c) Sign the report, only if defects or deficiencies were noted by the driver who prepared the report, to acknowledge that the driver has reviewed it and that there is a certification that the required repairs have been performed. The signature requirement does not apply to listed defects on a towed unit which is no longer part of the vehicle combination.

That is part one you should consider. Here is part 2:

section 395.2

On-duty time means all time from the time a driver begins to work or is required to be in readiness to work until the time the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work. On-duty time shall include:

(1) All time at a plant, terminal , facility, or other property of a motor carrier or shipper , or on any public property, waiting to be dispatched, unless the driver has been relieved from duty by the motor carrier;

(2) All time inspecting, servicing, or conditioning any commercial motor vehicle at any time;

Are you stil going to maintain your stance that these other things you're reading are correct? My copies are directly from the fmcsa regulation handbook located at the official website, https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/

Now i'm curious how you're once again going to try to wiggle the words so that it fits your style of running, much like i've heard countless drivers do.

And how you explain to a DOT officer that you did your pre-trip in 7 minutes elapsed time and did so while logged in as "sleeper"?

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Commercial Motor Vehicle:

A commercial motor vehicle is any vehicle used in commerce to transport passengers or property with either:

  • A gross vehicle weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more
  • A gross combination weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more which includes a towed unit with a gross vehicle weight rating of more than 10,000 pounds
  • CSA:

    Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

    The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

    FMCSA:

    Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

    The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

    What Does The FMCSA Do?

    • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
    • Data and Analysis
    • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
    • Research and Technology
    • Safety Assistance
    • Support and Information Sharing

    DOT:

    Department Of Transportation

    A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

    State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

    Fm:

    Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

    The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
∆_Danielsahn_∆'s Comment
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This has all been very informative, on both sides. I do see Mr Jeff being safe, which is a good thing. Basically I see him following his company policy, which from my understanding, is contradictory to what the actual stated fmcsa rules are. and also, from his original post, the company seems to be pretty strict, on what they require of drivers, in all facets of their driving. So I would like to know, who he drives for, so I know what company to NOT look at.

The bottom line though, from my thinking, is that safe is safe, however, the fmcsa and the dot have the final word on that.

Stay safe

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

James R.'s Comment
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It appears from one of his posts that he drives for Aaron rent to own company.

SamTon's Comment
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I learned to cuss from truckers but what is a DRAFT S. O.B?

James R.'s Comment
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I learned to cuss from truckers but what is a DRAFT S. O.B?

When you say it like that it sounds like a tasty beer rofl-1.gif

G-Town's Comment
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This has all been very informative, on both sides. I do see Mr Jeff being safe, which is a good thing. Basically I see him following his company policy, which from my understanding, is contradictory to what the actual stated fmcsa rules are. and also, from his original post, the company seems to be pretty strict, on what they require of drivers, in all facets of their driving. So I would like to know, who he drives for, so I know what company to NOT look at.

The bottom line though, from my thinking, is that safe is safe, however, the fmcsa and the dot have the final word on that.

Stay safe

Read his initial post and tell me if you still think he is safe. Not trying to argue with you, but I saw shortcuts.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

G-Town's Comment
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This has all been very informative, on both sides. I do see Mr Jeff being safe, which is a good thing. Basically I see him following his company policy, which from my understanding, is contradictory to what the actual stated fmcsa rules are. and also, from his original post, the company seems to be pretty strict, on what they require of drivers, in all facets of their driving. So I would like to know, who he drives for, so I know what company to NOT look at.

The bottom line though, from my thinking, is that safe is safe, however, the fmcsa and the dot have the final word on that.

Stay safe

And then read his first reply to me. Shortcuts.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

∆_Danielsahn_∆'s Comment
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This has all been very informative, on both sides. I do see Mr Jeff being safe, which is a good thing. Basically I see him following his company policy, which from my understanding, is contradictory to what the actual stated fmcsa rules are. and also, from his original post, the company seems to be pretty strict, on what they require of drivers, in all facets of their driving. So I would like to know, who he drives for, so I know what company to NOT look at.

The bottom line though, from my thinking, is that safe is safe, however, the fmcsa and the dot have the final word on that.

Stay safe

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Read his initial post and tell me if you still think he is safe. Not trying to argue with you, but I saw shortcuts.

I did, and that is what I initially thought, too, but it seems more to me, that he is following a very strict company policy, that was explained as the thread went on. The company taught him how to do things, and probably assured him that it was safe, and conformed to the fmcsa, and dot rules. Which sadly, they do not. Now he is in a conundrum, of facing facts, or disobeying company policy. It seems he wants to felel justified in his procedures. From what I see, he is still checking his truck, just not in the recommended way, which creates a potential poop storm if he gets pulled in at a weigh station, or a roadside inspection. When it is all said and done, HE will e held responsible, for whatever repercussions his lack of proper logging, and procedures, entails. The company will not do anything but, let him be in trouble.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

G-Town's Comment
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This has all been very informative, on both sides. I do see Mr Jeff being safe, which is a good thing. Basically I see him following his company policy, which from my understanding, is contradictory to what the actual stated fmcsa rules are. and also, from his original post, the company seems to be pretty strict, on what they require of drivers, in all facets of their driving. So I would like to know, who he drives for, so I know what company to NOT look at.

The bottom line though, from my thinking, is that safe is safe, however, the fmcsa and the dot have the final word on that.

Stay safe

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Read his initial post and tell me if you still think he is safe. Not trying to argue with you, but I saw shortcuts.

double-quotes-end.png

I did, and that is what I initially thought, too, but it seems more to me, that he is following a very strict company policy, that was explained as the thread went on. The company taught him how to do things, and probably assured him that it was safe, and conformed to the fmcsa, and dot rules. Which sadly, they do not. Now he is in a conundrum, of facing facts, or disobeying company policy. It seems he wants to felel justified in his procedures. From what I see, he is still checking his truck, just not in the recommended way, which creates a potential poop storm if he gets pulled in at a weigh station, or a roadside inspection. When it is all said and done, HE will e held responsible, for whatever repercussions his lack of proper logging, and procedures, entails. The company will not do anything but, let him be in trouble.

My hang up is the logging but more important than that (to me) is 7 minutes for a pre trip. Look I move fairly quick on my pre trip but 7 minutes? Why bother.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

G-Town's Comment
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I learned to cuss from truckers but what is a DRAFT S. O.B?

A political group ;0

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