Swift Or Cr England For Training

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Nathan G.'s Comment
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i recently got excepted to CR england and swifts driving schools. i would just like to know what you guys think would be a better choice since you veterans have been around both of them. i have 4 small children that i am trying to raise so i need to get the ball rolling thanks.

G-Town's Comment
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Nathan wrote:

i recently got excepted to CR england and swifts driving schools. i would just like to know what you guys think would be a better choice since you veterans have been around both of them. i have 4 small children that i am trying to raise so i need to get the ball rolling thanks.

Nathan, I attended Swift's Richmond Academy several years back and have nothing but good things to say about them. I was well prepared to pass the CDL tests and the mentoring phase provided an adequate base of experience for going solo. .

I really think you should take a closer look at the two companies (compare side by side using Trucking Companies) and how they meet your needs as a potential new driver for the next 12-24 months. Either route you take will provide adequate schooling required to obtain the CDL. Beyond that, it's all about the road training (and trainers), your contractual obligations, and the driving opportunities available as a new hire.

Good luck.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Nathan G.'s Comment
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thanks g-town

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i recently got excepted to CR england and swifts driving schools. i would just like to know what you guys think would be a better choice since you veterans have been around both of them. i have 4 small children that i am trying to raise so i need to get the ball rolling thanks.

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Nathan, I attended Swift's Richmond Academy several years back and have nothing but good things to say about them. I was well prepared to pass the CDL tests and the mentoring phase provided an adequate base of experience for going solo. .

I really think you should take a closer look at the two companies (compare side by side using Trucking Companies) and how they meet your needs as a potential new driver for the next 12-24 months. Either route you take will provide adequate schooling required to obtain the CDL. Beyond that, it's all about the road training (and trainers), your contractual obligations, and the driving opportunities available as a new hire.

Good luck.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
C T.'s Comment
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Both are likely to be good companies, several swift drivers here to help with info. Ill say one thing though, don't limit yourself to just those 2 companies. Brett just revamped the company listings to show a good list to look into, still trying to decide myself.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Robert B. (The Dragon) ye's Comment
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If you're dead set between those two, go with Swift. Swift seems to be a better organized company and has much better starting pay than England. I won't say anything negative about England but I do have a family member who started with them and did have some issues. So take that with a grain of salt in a decision but me personally, I think Swift is a better company.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Tim F.'s Comment
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Nathan G....I see you have listed "in CDL school"...is that accurate? If not, I would suggest you consider Roehl Transport. They operate a terminal in Gary In. And can offer you a better home time option so you could still see those young ones. Give them a consideration. Straight up company.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
TIM B.'s Comment
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Regardless of which company you choose, the quality of training depends on your desires and expectations. What are your motives? Do you want to learn or do you just want to get the training program out of the way so you can get out on your own?

Just remember... truck driving school teaches you just enough of the basics for you to obtain a CDL. Company training OTR with a trainer/mentor teaches you more of the basics along with company specific policies and procedures. Mistakes are a part of the game and there will be plenty... "one does not become proficient by doing it right," you'll only learn from mistakes, whether they be yours or somebody else's.

i recently got excepted to CR england and swifts driving schools. i would just like to know what you guys think would be a better choice since you veterans have been around both of them. i have 4 small children that i am trying to raise so i need to get the ball rolling thanks.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Elmer F.'s Comment
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I have also just been accepted to Swift and CR England. I think I'm going to go with CR England for one reason....The rep I've been speaking to claims that after phases 1 and 2 (first 6 months) drivers are able to get a dedicated route close to home (if they choose). Its not guaranteed of course, but he claims that I would have choices. Swift basically has you on the road for 13 months with little time off, and no choice in where you go, if I understand it correctly. I know any program is going to have you on the road a lot, especially in the beginning, but I also have a wife and little ones at home, and want to be able to spend as little time away from them as possible. And....with CR England, you are off the hook in 9 months, vs 13 months with Swift. These might not be facts, but its what I've gathered from talking to the reps. Bottom line, it looks like going with CR England is going to give me more time with my kids.

Dedicated Route:

A driver or carrier who transports cargo between regular, prescribed routes. Normally it means a driver will be dedicated to working for one particular customer like Walmart or Home Depot and they will only haul freight for that customer. You'll often hear drivers say something like, "I'm on the Walmart dedicated account."

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Old School's Comment
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Elmer, we've got quite a few Swift drivers in here who have had a lot of choices offered them, including home nightly jobs during their first quarter at Swift. Don't just trust these recruiters - do your own home work and get the truth.

G-Town's Comment
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Elmer wrote:

I have also just been accepted to Swift and CR England. I think I'm going to go with CR England for one reason....The rep I've been speaking to claims that after phases 1 and 2 (first 6 months) drivers are able to get a dedicated route close to home (if they choose). Its not guaranteed of course, but he claims that I would have choices. Swift basically has you on the road for 13 months with little time off, and no choice in where you go, if I understand it correctly. I know any program is going to have you on the road a lot, especially in the beginning, but I also have a wife and little ones at home, and want to be able to spend as little time away from them as possible. And....with CR England, you are off the hook in 9 months, vs 13 months with Swift. These might not be facts, but its what I've gathered from talking to the reps. Bottom line, it looks like going with CR England is going to give me more time with my kids.

Elmer, I am not sure who at Swift has given you than information but I can share with you that I was assigned to Walmart Dedicated after three months OTR. Another Swift driver on the forum, Errol was also put on a dedicated route in far less time than a year. Fact.

Dedicated Route:

A driver or carrier who transports cargo between regular, prescribed routes. Normally it means a driver will be dedicated to working for one particular customer like Walmart or Home Depot and they will only haul freight for that customer. You'll often hear drivers say something like, "I'm on the Walmart dedicated account."

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

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