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G-Town's Comment
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Calvin wrote:

I'm fairly certain you can get your for physical and drug test done at your own doctor (correct me if I'm wrong) and if you didn't have a company pay for it, it won't go on record.

You could, but be cautious. There are medical records that might be created if you take any kind of test with a medical professional. When you submit to your DOT physical (in the future) you basically authorize them to back check your medical records (under HIPAA compliance). Be careful. Be open with your Doc and ask him what kind of a permanent record is created if you take a test like this. Otherwise, l'd hang low for awhile.

And the shampoo, doesn't work. Trace amounts of any drug become part of the cellular structure of the strands of hair. Can't be washed away.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

C T.'s Comment
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Ha thanks gtown. I'll be finding out what he likes soon enough lol

G-Town's Comment
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Ha thanks gtown. I'll be finding out what he likes soon enough lol

Awesome. T W U K...was one of my first words as a baby. LOL. An omen of sorts. Best of luck to you and your growing family.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

M3rciless's Comment
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I called a few companies, Dart being one I'm looking into the most, but the recruiter asked me (phone spoof as to not make a record) if I was prescribed marijuana. If I were to be would that give me a pass? Just a thought. 23 days clean and still can't sleep but it will eventually get easier.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Yeah, I would wait it out for a while. Like others have said, failing a drug test is nearly impossible to recover from. No one taking the tests will know for sure how far back the hair follicle tests will go. Different companies will administer different tests and have them done to their own specs. So they might go back 60, 90, or 180 days - you just don't know.

And since you know 6 months is about what it's going to take to be super clean and your baby is due in about 6 months you might be better off waiting until after the baby comes and get started late winter or spring.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
M3rciless's Comment
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Definitely going to consider that. Because missing the birth wouldn't be good for anyone especially being as a rookie getting used to the lifestyle. Plus starting out in spring would help me get used to the trucks before I drive in snow or ice.

Just really want to get on the road and out of the same office/aisle I've been in for 2 years. Probably going to go back to food delivery or taxi driving (anything vehicle related) until I'm squeaky clean to be sure.

Probably not my last question but for now it is. My neighbor smoked religiously and most days I can smell it. Is the second hand going to be there or will the test confirm that it's second hand? I try my best to stay away from it but there's not much I can do some days. (i've talked to the police, the neighbor and his paroll officer and they can't do anything about it unless he gets caught) And how have y'all coped with second hand before? I figure there has to be some sort of understanding that you can't completely remain toxin free in some areas.

Sorry if it sounds like I'm trying to beat the test, I'm just curious about pretty much everything about this job so I can go in knowing what to expect.

Thanks y'all

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

M3rciless's Comment
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Ok nvm on that question about three pages into Google and they (wolfram) said unless you are being hot boxed it will barely show traces of at all. So there's some good news

Big Scott (CFI's biggest 's Comment
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Read some of the training diaries and look up companies on line. Almost all companies give their own drug test a part of the hiring process. Make sure you are 100% clean.

From my research, the norm is you would have to be OTR for at least one year. It is possible to land a local or regional job right out of school. You may be able to get in with a local company that will train you on the job. Some local LTL companies will train dock worker who express an interest in driving. If you read through these forums you will find that your attitude is key to success or failure in this industry.

Also, make sure you have very honest conversations with your wife. I worry that you said you wife's thoughts might get the better of her while you are gone. Honest communication between the two of you will be the key to success for your marriage. Do not rush into this career. Do diligent research into life on the road, trucking companies and trucking schools.

Check out this video. https://youtu.be/hr22YmVZsUQ There are many truckers who make YouTube videos that could help you out.

Also check out these area of this site.

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CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

LTL:

Less Than Truckload

Refers to carriers that make a lot of smaller pickups and deliveries for multiple customers as opposed to hauling one big load of freight for one customer. This type of hauling is normally done by companies with terminals scattered throughout the country where freight is sorted before being moved on to its destination.

LTL carriers include:

  • FedEx Freight
  • Con-way
  • YRC Freight
  • UPS
  • Old Dominion
  • Estes
  • Yellow-Roadway
  • ABF Freight
  • R+L Carrier

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

FloridaBuckeye's Comment
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M3rciless

I hear experienced people saying don't rush into this because of the risk of being shutout forever, and because of the blessing headed ur way in 6 months.

Aside from the fact that you do not want to miss being there for your Wife and Newborn, they will need some kinda family member there to be their support system starting out. It's just a must. Plus don't miss it dude. Way too cool.

The other thing is that I think you need to prove your commitment to yourself to be able to resist the temptation to need the weed.

I also have just recently quit smoking marijuana and don't plan to start back up at all. (i smoked to sleep and calm my anxiety/depression not recreationally)

What I'm learning is just how notorious this occupation is for sleep pattern disruption issues, and anxiety causing issues Like Daily!

There's a bunch we can learn about this business because there is just so darn much to learn.

One of the things that has surprised me is that even the folks with years of experience in here are still learning. And the big wow is that they are doing it with one hand on the wheel while holding their life, and the lives of a bunch of others, in the other hand.

There is a ton you and I can learn just by being in here regularly, and you can't get that time back with your Wife and Kid.

I wouldn't look for reasons to rush it, I'd consider the reasons that going slow could set you up for you and ur Family's future success.

And congrats for having a family on the way. It changed my life!

Errol V.'s Comment
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FloridaBuckeye has a fantastic reply. (Brett, get out a "Great Answer" slug!)

Aside from the fact that you do not want to miss being there for your Wife and Newborn ...

This is a Once In A Lifetime thing. If you are OTR your DM will certainly get you home, but all things considered here, use the six months to clean up as well as enjoy the special time together. On a daily basis!

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
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