Tire Issues And OH MY GOSH I'M GONNA PULL MY HAIR OUT!

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FairyTales's Comment
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So this is a rant. I'll try to make it short... or not. I don't know yet. So I ran into some construction earlier today. Stopped to get fuel and notice that my left steer tire was damaged like WHOA! Looked like someone had carved the roast beef for dinner. I made it back to my home base to get a new tire. Great? Great. He gets done and I notice that the new left tire is 16 ply and the right tire is 14 ply. Now. The 14 ply can carry max 6,175 which two of them makes 12,350. The 16 ply can carry 6,610 and which two of them make 13,220. Okay SOOOO... I have been being told that I can carry 13k on my steer. I've called a few times cause my steer have been over 12k. They said "Your tires are rated for 13k" I was like okay cool. (I fully recognize that I should have looked at my tires before hand, but I didn't, so boo on me) So the loads I have been taking, should have never been on my truck. I weighed my steer without with full fuel tank and no trailer, I'm right at 11,000. That leaves like 1,350 to play with. Does ANY of this sound right to anybody? What are some of your steer weights? Also, the company has disabled the ability to move the 5th wheel. So that option is out the window.

murderspolywog's Comment
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Kind of hard to follow. But fuel is what effects your steer tires the most add fuel add weight. Burn fuel loose weight. So what do your steer tires weight with your fuel load and payload. We're my 5th wheel is set with full fuel, and full gross I am 12300, when I ran reefer I had 3/4 fuel and would be at 12300 and could go 34k and 34k. You don't change a hole lot of weight to your steers when you load cargo if your 5th wheel is set rite so what you need to do is get some loads and figer out how much weight and fuel change your steer weight I can tell you from past experience full cargo only changes my steer weights by 600 pounds.

Reefer:

A refrigerated trailer.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

FairyTales's Comment
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Right now, I have a full tank of fuel, no trailer. I weighed my steer and I'm right at 11,000

Kind of hard to follow. But fuel is what effects your steer tires the most add fuel add weight. Burn fuel loose weight. So what do your steer tires weight with your fuel load and payload. We're my 5th wheel is set with full fuel, and full gross I am 12300, when I ran reefer I had 3/4 fuel and would be at 12300 and could go 34k and 34k. You don't change a hole lot of weight to your steers when you load cargo if your 5th wheel is set rite so what you need to do is get some loads and figer out how much weight and fuel change your steer weight I can tell you from past experience full cargo only changes my steer weights by 600 pounds.

Reefer:

A refrigerated trailer.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

murderspolywog's Comment
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Yes but you need to get some loads and see how the weight plays with your steers.

Being bobtail will not show you anything, other them empty and full fuel you weight x.

Bobtail:

"Bobtailing" means you are driving a tractor without a trailer attached.

G-Town's Comment
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Easy does it there Driver.

With a fully loaded trailer, and fifth wheel set properly, steer axle weights fluctuate no more than a couple of hundred pounds for each different load. My steer axle with a 42-45k load varies from 11,400-11,800. Always in that range for those load weights. Never reached 12 in 4+ yrs. My fifth wheel is in the first set of slots, closest to the cab.

Didn't your trainer review any of this with you? Should have... You're good though.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Brett Aquila's Comment
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Right now, I have a full tank of fuel, no trailer. I weighed my steer and I'm right at 11,000

You can't really go by the empty weight. When you're grossing about 77,000+ with your tandems and drives balanced pretty well near 33,000 or so and a half tank of fuel your steer axle should be where you want it to max out.

77,000 or more pounds gross
33,000 tandems
33,000 drives
Half tank of fuel

Steer axle should be around the maximum weight you want it. It should be somewhere between 12,000 and 13,000 but you won't know until you weight it when you're grossing near 80,000.

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Couple more things:

1) Since your 5th wheel doesn't slide anyhow there isn't much you can do about it unfortunately

2) For those who don't know, you can look in the reference section of the Rand McNally Motor Carriers Atlas to look up the maximum axle weights for each state. In this case we're talking about the steer axle weight and that is one of the numbers they have listed specifically for each state.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Pat M.'s Comment
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My steer is 13,200 empty.

Rainy D.'s Comment
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Easy does it there Driver.

Didn't your trainer review any of this with you? Should have... You're good though.

Hahhhaaha. That's funny. NOPE. I learn more on this site than I did with the trainer. Three trainers and scaled only once at prime. Never talked about steers. Was never even shown CAT scale ops. When they said "weigh or reweigh" in a southern accent I had to go in and ask what they were saying hahahh

CAT Scale:

A network of over 1,500 certified truck scales across the U.S. and Canada found primarily at truck stops. CAT scales are by far the most trustworthy scales out there.

In fact, CAT Scale offers an unconditional Guarantee:

“If you get an overweight fine from the state after our scale showed your legal, we will immediately check our scale. If our scale is wrong, we will reimburse you for the fine. If our scale is correct, a representative of CAT Scale Company will appear in court with the driver as a witness”

G-Town's Comment
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Easy does it there Driver.

Didn't your trainer review any of this with you? Should have... You're good though.

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Hahhhaaha. That's funny. NOPE. I learn more on this site than I did with the trainer. Three trainers and scaled only once at prime. Never talked about steers. Was never even shown CAT scale ops. When they said "weigh or reweigh" in a southern accent I had to go in and ask what they were saying hahahh

Sad, but true. Meant as a rhetorical question.

CAT Scale:

A network of over 1,500 certified truck scales across the U.S. and Canada found primarily at truck stops. CAT scales are by far the most trustworthy scales out there.

In fact, CAT Scale offers an unconditional Guarantee:

“If you get an overweight fine from the state after our scale showed your legal, we will immediately check our scale. If our scale is wrong, we will reimburse you for the fine. If our scale is correct, a representative of CAT Scale Company will appear in court with the driver as a witness”

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