Tire Issues And OH MY GOSH I'M GONNA PULL MY HAIR OUT!

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Pianoman's Comment
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Kind of hard to follow. But fuel is what effects your steer tires the most add fuel add weight. Burn fuel loose weight. So what do your steer tires weight with your fuel load and payload. We're my 5th wheel is set with full fuel, and full gross I am 12300, when I ran reefer I had 3/4 fuel and would be at 12300 and could go 34k and 34k. You don't change a hole lot of weight to your steers when you load cargo if your 5th wheel is set rite so what you need to do is get some loads and figer out how much weight and fuel change your steer weight I can tell you from past experience full cargo only changes my steer weights by 600 pounds.

12300 on steers with 34k on drives and 34k on tandems is over gross.

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Reefer:

A refrigerated trailer.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

ChickieMonster's Comment
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I guess I should respond here.

In Trddy and in this recovery truck, my steers are always right around 12,280. The highest they have been is 12,560. I have never been stopped at a scale for this.

And I have been told by dispatch too that our tires are rated at 13k. We also have an APU which adds 250 to steers and a reefer which can add an additional 500. (These weights are added to the standard 12k).

G-town, I don't know about FairyTale's trainer but mine never weighed a load except at the shippers when they had a free scale. She would also hit every open scale house even if she got a bypass from the PrePass.

I had to teach myself how to use a CAT scale and to properly balance weight. She would always put it in the "meat hole" (7th hole) and run with it.

I weigh every load that is over 25k. I want that CAT scale receipt to back me up if I ever needed it...

FairyTale, you are doing a good job! I bet your trainer never did a pretrip so kudos to you for doing them and doing them so thoroughly. You know you can always tweet me if you need help...

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

CAT Scale:

A network of over 1,500 certified truck scales across the U.S. and Canada found primarily at truck stops. CAT scales are by far the most trustworthy scales out there.

In fact, CAT Scale offers an unconditional Guarantee:

“If you get an overweight fine from the state after our scale showed your legal, we will immediately check our scale. If our scale is wrong, we will reimburse you for the fine. If our scale is correct, a representative of CAT Scale Company will appear in court with the driver as a witness”

Reefer:

A refrigerated trailer.

APU:

Auxiliary Power Unit

On tractor trailers, and APU is a small diesel engine that powers a heat and air conditioning unit while charging the truck's main batteries at the same time. This allows the driver to remain comfortable in the cab and have access to electric power without running the main truck engine.

Having an APU helps save money in fuel costs and saves wear and tear on the main engine, though they tend to be expensive to install and maintain. Therefore only a very small percentage of the trucks on the road today come equipped with an APU.

murderspolywog's Comment
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Kind of hard to follow. But fuel is what effects your steer tires the most add fuel add weight. Burn fuel loose weight. So what do your steer tires weight with your fuel load and payload. We're my 5th wheel is set with full fuel, and full gross I am 12300, when I ran reefer I had 3/4 fuel and would be at 12300 and could go 34k and 34k. You don't change a hole lot of weight to your steers when you load cargo if your 5th wheel is set rite so what you need to do is get some loads and figer out how much weight and fuel change your steer weight I can tell you from past experience full cargo only changes my steer weights by 600 pounds.

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12300 on steers with 34k on drives and 34k on tandems is over gross.

Correct paul, my point was I can be legal on all axels even if I was over 80k. It made perfect sense in my head last night when I typed it .

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Reefer:

A refrigerated trailer.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Pianoman's Comment
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Kind of hard to follow. But fuel is what effects your steer tires the most add fuel add weight. Burn fuel loose weight. So what do your steer tires weight with your fuel load and payload. We're my 5th wheel is set with full fuel, and full gross I am 12300, when I ran reefer I had 3/4 fuel and would be at 12300 and could go 34k and 34k. You don't change a hole lot of weight to your steers when you load cargo if your 5th wheel is set rite so what you need to do is get some loads and figer out how much weight and fuel change your steer weight I can tell you from past experience full cargo only changes my steer weights by 600 pounds.

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12300 on steers with 34k on drives and 34k on tandems is over gross.

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Correct paul, my point was I can be legal on all axels even if I was over 80k. It made perfect sense in my head last night when I typed it .

Ah, gotcha. It makes perfect sense now that you clarified that lol

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Reefer:

A refrigerated trailer.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

G-Town's Comment
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I guess I should respond here.

In Trddy and in this recovery truck, my steers are always right around 12,280. The highest they have been is 12,560. I have never been stopped at a scale for this.

And I have been told by dispatch too that our tires are rated at 13k. We also have an APU which adds 250 to steers and a reefer which can add an additional 500. (These weights are added to the standard 12k).

G-town, I don't know about FairyTale's trainer but mine never weighed a load except at the shippers when they had a free scale. She would also hit every open scale house even if she got a bypass from the PrePass.

I had to teach myself how to use a CAT scale and to properly balance weight. She would always put it in the "meat hole" (7th hole) and run with it.

I weigh every load that is over 25k. I want that CAT scale receipt to back me up if I ever needed it...

FairyTale, you are doing a good job! I bet your trainer never did a pretrip so kudos to you for doing them and doing them so thoroughly. You know you can always tweet me if you need help...

Those are really great work habits Chickie. Props.

I weigh ever load too, so I can balance my weight. Makes for a much better ride quality. Sorry your trainer didn't teach how to properly scale...guess I was fortunate to have one that did. Possibly cause we were moving paper rolls all the time. I helped a newer driver last week move his tandems , told me he was never taught how to do it. So I took the time to School him on it. Professionalism seems to be fading fast.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

CAT Scale:

A network of over 1,500 certified truck scales across the U.S. and Canada found primarily at truck stops. CAT scales are by far the most trustworthy scales out there.

In fact, CAT Scale offers an unconditional Guarantee:

“If you get an overweight fine from the state after our scale showed your legal, we will immediately check our scale. If our scale is wrong, we will reimburse you for the fine. If our scale is correct, a representative of CAT Scale Company will appear in court with the driver as a witness”

Reefer:

A refrigerated trailer.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

APU:

Auxiliary Power Unit

On tractor trailers, and APU is a small diesel engine that powers a heat and air conditioning unit while charging the truck's main batteries at the same time. This allows the driver to remain comfortable in the cab and have access to electric power without running the main truck engine.

Having an APU helps save money in fuel costs and saves wear and tear on the main engine, though they tend to be expensive to install and maintain. Therefore only a very small percentage of the trucks on the road today come equipped with an APU.

ChickieMonster's Comment
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I've never been to a trailer washout either. And I pull a reefer. But most meat houses wash out on site.

Every other time that I've had a shipper that required a clean trailer I've always been able to just sweep out the trailer. I had one trailer with a tiny amount of blood, but a shop rag and some ammonia cleaning solution took it right up.

I always check the trailer though. I've just never had one that was stinky or had a ton of blood in it that needed a washout.

Where I'm going with this is that it's something that I wasn't trained on that I wish I had been.

When you only get 11 days with a trainer (7 in my case) it's hard to get any significant training in, especially on these little details.

Sorry FT I didn't mean to hijack your thread, but I'm guessing you know where I'm coming from!

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Reefer:

A refrigerated trailer.

Pianoman's Comment
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Those are really great work habits Chickie. Props.

I weigh ever load too, so I can balance my weight. Makes for a much better ride quality. Sorry your trainer didn't teach how to properly scale...guess I was fortunate to have one that did. Possibly cause we were moving paper rolls all the time. I helped a newer driver last week move his tandems , told me he was never taught how to do it. So I took the time to School him on it. Professionalism seems to be fading fast.

Guess I should count my blessings..both my trainers taught me to scale and slide my tandems. The second trainer taught me how to use a curb to slide stuck tandems and how to chain up too.

Not the first time I've heard of a new driver not being taught to slide tandems--crazy.

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
ChickieMonster's Comment
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They showed us the "how" of sliding tandems at orientation but never went into the "why" or "how far".

It's tough to learn these things on your own...

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Susan D. 's Comment
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We covered all this in orientation and my trainer covered it too. When I was solo I scaled every single load and still scale most everything. I'm teaming these days (with my former trainer) and with his experience, he generally looks at where the load sits in the trailer, the gross weight, and can generally get it even and legal. I've actually got to where I can feel if its heavy anywhere affecting the ride (heavy steers make for sluggish steering and funky stopping, where heavy tandems make it feel choppy/bouncy), but I always like a legal cat scale ticket since our company as well as cat guarantee they will pay any overweight tickets if the load has been properly scaled.

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

CAT Scale:

A network of over 1,500 certified truck scales across the U.S. and Canada found primarily at truck stops. CAT scales are by far the most trustworthy scales out there.

In fact, CAT Scale offers an unconditional Guarantee:

“If you get an overweight fine from the state after our scale showed your legal, we will immediately check our scale. If our scale is wrong, we will reimburse you for the fine. If our scale is correct, a representative of CAT Scale Company will appear in court with the driver as a witness”

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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I've never been to a trailer washout either. And I pull a reefer. But most meat houses wash out on site.

Every other time that I've had a shipper that required a clean trailer I've always been able to just sweep out the trailer. I had one trailer with a tiny amount of blood, but a shop rag and some ammonia cleaning solution took it right up.

I always check the trailer though. I've just never had one that was stinky or had a ton of blood in it that needed a washout.

Where I'm going with this is that it's something that I wasn't trained on that I wish I had been.

When you only get 11 days with a trainer (7 in my case) it's hard to get any significant training in, especially on these little details.

Sorry FT I didn't mean to hijack your thread, but I'm guessing you know where I'm coming from!

Prime sent us a message that they wanted every trailer washed out after meat loads. Apparently there was blood in a trailer and walmart rejected $80,000 produce load cause of it.

My trainer only washed out if the load assignment specifically stated it. She rarely did pretrip either

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Reefer:

A refrigerated trailer.

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