Moving And Prime Inc.

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James's Comment
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Howdy everyone,

So I have read some information in regards to relocation before starting PSD (Prime Student Driver) in Springfield, Mo., however, what does one do with their personal vehicle. Some of you will say to sell it, and while I agree with this view point, I would very much like to keep my independence when on home time. I am moving from Texas to Oklahoma before leaving for Prime next month for PSD. I have already been utilizing the training here on TT and studying the Mo State CDL Manual for months. The state of Missouri no longer allows for out-of-state CDL Permits or medical cards when going to training programs for any company (New Law as of January 1, 2016). So Prime has set up the system where you surrender your home state license and change your domicile to the Campus Inn. All of which is legit. The only question I have is that when your license changes, what do you do with your personal vehicle? Once you submit your information through the DMV of Missouri, your home state is then notified and your personal vehicle is then put into jeopardy (for insurance and tags/title/registration). So I ask for some wisdom in how to avoid this issue, since your home state is notified of your "move" and license change. I really want to avoid changing my personal vehicle insurance twice when my vehicle will be left at home in Oklahoma throughout the duration of my training time. Especially since the vehicle has a lien and that is extra paperwork I'd rather not endure. How have you guys delt with this or a similar situation, besides selling the vehicle? Thanks in advance for your input and help!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.
Kat's Comment
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When you move, change your car's registration to your new Oklahoma address. Shouldn't be an issue. My home address is in Ga. My car is registered and insured under that address, but I have my CDL in Missouri right now. Will be changing license back to Ga though when I go home in August.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Tractor Man's Comment
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Wow. That sounds complicated! I'm glad I went to School and got my CDL in my home state.

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CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Rick S.'s Comment
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While "technically" - changing a drivers license to another state would indicate a "change of domicile state" (requiring vehicle reg changes, etc.), most states (especially MO), recognize that people come to Prime (and other companies out of of MO and other states) to obtain their CDL - so there's some leniency.

Many people have homes in two states - and have vehicles they leave there and leave registered in that particular state. All of this depends on where you declare your permanent residence to be (domicile state), which is also important for person income taxes, state taxes, etc.

So - in the OP's case - move to OK. Establish your domicile there - register your car there, etc. Go do your Prime training to get your CDL, and then transfer your CDL to OK, at your earliest opportunity.

Again, "technically", most states give you 10-30 days to change your addresses on vehicles, licenses, etc. - and require they all match up. But most states also recognize temp changes in DL's for CDL training in the trucking industry.

As far as "keep or sell" the car. Don't want to sound negative here - but I'd keep it, at least until getting out of training and going solo. You never know what might happen during training, and if you get "bounced" (or decide to leave), you're going to want to have your "mobility".

Best of luck to you. Keep us posted on your progress...

Rick

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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Your original license number stays the same. If your license is revoked or suspended.. your car is still insured aND registered and someone else can drive it. Nj basically told me it was the same thing. If I had 2 homes on different coasts I could still only have one license.

My license went from NJ to MO september i never changed it back until Feb when I went solo. My bro drove the car while I was gone.

James's Comment
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Thanks for your wisdom folks! :) I'm going just jump in with both feet. I'll talk with Oklahoma DPS when I register my car and let them know to notate that I will be temporarily changing my license to Mo for truck training at Prime then bringing it back to Oklahoma to exchange my license. Hopefully, this will keep Oklahoma from chasing me for updating my personal vehicle to Missouri. Thanks again for your input folks! :)

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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When to transfer the cdl back home... be sure they give you the correct endorsements. NJ is stupid and they not only fmsis not transfer my tanker endorsement but they RESTRICTED me from air brakes... and the woman there tried to tell me in don't have air brakes. I hate people... they ate stupid lol

Had to get a supervisor to straighten ot out

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Big Scott's Comment
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When to transfer the cdl back home... be sure they give you the correct endorsements. NJ is stupid and they not only fmsis not transfer my tanker endorsement but they RESTRICTED me from air brakes... and the woman there tried to tell me in don't have air brakes. I hate people... they ate stupid lol

Had to get a supervisor to straighten ot out

It's tough dealing with GS 1s. lol

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
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