UPS Accused Drivers Of Stealing..

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Trucker Kearsey 's Comment
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This is something that will never be on my QC. I'm governed at 62 mph and still told to slow down for fuel consumption.

Now I know why FedEx and ups are always hitting me lol

Anchorman's Comment
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That doesn't sound or look legal to me...I don't think a company can tell you to drive faster OR ELSE! I'll drive at whatever speed I feel is safe and legal that I am comfortable with.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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That is a really bizarre message. I can't imagine a large company would want to put it in writing that they're telling their drivers to drive as fast as possible at all times.

Figuring out how to pay delivery drivers of any sort, from OTR truckers to package delivery like Fedex, is always a tough call. There's no perfect way of doing it. If you pay people by the hour they're always tempted to milk the clock. If you pay them by the mile or by the delivery they're always tempted to push as hard as possible to make all of the money they can. By the hour becomes inefficient, based upon incentive it can get dangerous.

I don't think I'd want to put it in writing that I want my drivers to drive as fast as possible though. That's just asking for trouble.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Tractor Man's Comment
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Those Fed Ex Doubles drivers drive like MANIACS out there. Never seen one driving too slow. Saw one on its side ( Yes, all 3 parts) in a freeway median in Nevada a few weeks ago.

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Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
G-Town's Comment
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Those Fed Ex Doubles drivers drive like MANIACS out there. Never seen one driving too slow. Saw one on its side ( Yes, all 3 parts) in a freeway median in Nevada a few weeks ago.

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They hire many contractors,...the company drivers tend to exercise some level of prudence, especially the P&D drivers. I do agree though, wild, wild west with many of them, especially in the middle of the night. I too have seen many a Fed-Ex pup on it's side or wheels up. Doesn't seem to slow them down though.

P&D:

Pickup & Delivery

Local drivers that stay around their area, usually within 100 mile radius of a terminal, picking up and delivering loads.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers for instance will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Susan D. 's Comment
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I personally know a UPS driver. They are constantly pressured and if they are late their jobs are literally at risk. It's awful and why i will back off, change lanes, whatever to allow them to pass on through, even if i have 1mph on them. Those drivers havr my sympathy and i would NEVER work for UPS or Fedex Freight.

HOS:

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HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Tractor Man's Comment
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I personally know a UPS driver. They are constantly pressured and if they are late their jobs are literally at risk. It's awful and why i will back off, change lanes, whatever to allow them to pass on through, even if i have 1mph on them. Those drivers havr my sympathy and i would NEVER work for UPS or Fedex Freight.

Isn't that what the new "Coercion" laws are about? They are risking many other lives besides their own. In my opinion, there is no excuse for the way that way to many Truckers drive out there, regardless of the Company they drive for. We all hear about the crazy 4 wheelers, I see as many or more careless/ dangerous Truckers out there. 10 Feet is NOT a safe following distance, nor is it a safe distance to re enter a lane after a pass. I am constantly re adjusting my following due to these irresponsible drivers. Just my $.02.

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G-Town's Comment
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Tractor wrote:

In my opinion, there is no excuse for the way that way to many Truckers drive out there, regardless of the Company they drive for. We all hear about the crazy 4 wheelers, I see as many or more careless/ dangerous Truckers out there. 10 Feet is NOT a safe following distance, nor is it a safe distance to re enter a lane after a pass. I am constantly re adjusting my following due to these irresponsible drivers.

There is an active thread on the forum entitled; You know you are a real trucker when...

Among other possibilities it's when a driver make a statement like the above that I know the circus has become real for them. In order to wrap your head around the issue of "brother truckers behaving badly", a driver needs to be out here for a while, beyond the initial "giddy school kid" thrill of it. Tractor has been driving for a while now, so he gets it. There are way too many irresponsible drivers that do not belong behind the wheel of a large, heavy vehicle. It's not limited to semis either, straight trucks, delivery vans, tri-axle dumps, it's chronic. I was behind a bozo this morning unable to hold his lane, not by a few inches but a foot of consistent swerving. Unmarked truck so it rules out the obvious. Any guesses as to what he was doing while driving in traffic at highway speed?

It's not just semis either; straight trucks, delivery vans, dump trucks...it's chronic no matter the vehicle type. Not to get too far off topic, but I think it's worse now than when I started and I really don't have a single or simple answer to solving it. I deal with it, but honestly, at times it saps the enjoyment out of it for me.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Pianoman's Comment
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Tractor wrote:

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In my opinion, there is no excuse for the way that way to many Truckers drive out there, regardless of the Company they drive for. We all hear about the crazy 4 wheelers, I see as many or more careless/ dangerous Truckers out there. 10 Feet is NOT a safe following distance, nor is it a safe distance to re enter a lane after a pass. I am constantly re adjusting my following due to these irresponsible drivers.

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There is an active thread on the forum entitled; You know you are a real trucker when...

Among other possibilities it's when a driver make a statement like the above that I know the circus has become real for them. In order to wrap your head around the issue of "brother truckers behaving badly", a driver needs to be out here for a while, beyond the initial "giddy school kid" thrill of it. Tractor has been driving for a while now, so he gets it. There are way too many irresponsible drivers that do not belong behind the wheel of a large, heavy vehicle. It's not limited to semis either, straight trucks, delivery vans, tri-axle dumps, it's chronic. I was behind a bozo this morning unable to hold his lane, not by a few inches but a foot of consistent swerving. Unmarked truck so it rules out the obvious. Any guesses as to what he was doing while driving in traffic at highway speed?

It's not just semis either; straight trucks, delivery vans, dump trucks...it's chronic no matter the vehicle type. Not to get too far off topic, but I think it's worse now than when I started and I really don't have a single or simple answer to solving it. I deal with it, but honestly, at times it saps the enjoyment out of it for me.

Do you guys ever call their company about it? You couldn't do that with this dude since it was an unmarked truck, but I have called to "tell" on several drivers that were texting, swerving, tailgating, etc. I've even called Swift about a lease-op that cut in front of me in the rain. I didn't have a dash cam yet so no video, but I saw him exit shortly after I called so I assumed he probably got a call from safety pretty quickly. It doesn't do too much good if you don't have it on video, but hopefully a call from safety will at least make these guys and gals think twice before continuing their reckless behavior.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Kanelin's Comment
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Tractor wrote:

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In my opinion, there is no excuse for the way that way to many Truckers drive out there, regardless of the Company they drive for. We all hear about the crazy 4 wheelers, I see as many or more careless/ dangerous Truckers out there. 10 Feet is NOT a safe following distance, nor is it a safe distance to re enter a lane after a pass. I am constantly re adjusting my following due to these irresponsible drivers.

double-quotes-end.png

There is an active thread on the forum entitled; You know you are a real trucker when...

Among other possibilities it's when a driver make a statement like the above that I know the circus has become real for them. In order to wrap your head around the issue of "brother truckers behaving badly", a driver needs to be out here for a while, beyond the initial "giddy school kid" thrill of it. Tractor has been driving for a while now, so he gets it. There are way too many irresponsible drivers that do not belong behind the wheel of a large, heavy vehicle. It's not limited to semis either, straight trucks, delivery vans, tri-axle dumps, it's chronic. I was behind a bozo this morning unable to hold his lane, not by a few inches but a foot of consistent swerving. Unmarked truck so it rules out the obvious. Any guesses as to what he was doing while driving in traffic at highway speed?

It's not just semis either; straight trucks, delivery vans, dump trucks...it's chronic no matter the vehicle type. Not to get too far off topic, but I think it's worse now than when I started and I really don't have a single or simple answer to solving it. I deal with it, but honestly, at times it saps the enjoyment out of it for me.

I've only been out here 3 days and I've seen quite a bit of it. Maybe I'm noticing it because my trainer is a stickler for lane control and spacing. But I am amazed at some of the stuff I've seen. One guy cut us off TWICE in the same Truck stop parking lot.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

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