Bad Shippers?

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Aaron M.'s Comment
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There is something else I need to point which i forgot to do in my op. When I went through the shippers scale my steer axle wileights were about 10500 with brakes released and applied they were 12360.

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There is your problem. ALWAYS weigh with your brakes RELEASED!

Lol, I told yall I knows NOTHING about rigs with just 5 months driving. I ain't even a rookie yet.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Aaron M.'s Comment
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There is something else I need to point which i forgot to do in my op. When I went through the shippers scale my steer axle wileights were about 10500 with brakes released and applied they were 12360.

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Are you running with an air ride suspension trailer?

Yea, it didn't don on me to realize that weight is added when the brakes are applied. If that is my only issue I am so embarrassed. Major less than rookie mistake.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Aaron M.'s Comment
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What about going through trucks stops cat scales? I always set my brakes and shut off the truck so they can hear me.

CAT Scale:

A network of over 1,500 certified truck scales across the U.S. and Canada found primarily at truck stops. CAT scales are by far the most trustworthy scales out there.

In fact, CAT Scale offers an unconditional Guarantee:

“If you get an overweight fine from the state after our scale showed your legal, we will immediately check our scale. If our scale is wrong, we will reimburse you for the fine. If our scale is correct, a representative of CAT Scale Company will appear in court with the driver as a witness”

Cat Scales:

A network of over 1,500 certified truck scales across the U.S. and Canada found primarily at truck stops. CAT scales are by far the most trustworthy scales out there.

In fact, CAT Scale offers an unconditional Guarantee:

“If you get an overweight fine from the state after our scale showed your legal, we will immediately check our scale. If our scale is wrong, we will reimburse you for the fine. If our scale is correct, a representative of CAT Scale Company will appear in court with the driver as a witness”

Tractor Man's Comment
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What about going through trucks stops cat scales? I always set my brakes and shut off the truck so they can hear me.

Leave it in gear and release the brakes.

CAT Scale:

A network of over 1,500 certified truck scales across the U.S. and Canada found primarily at truck stops. CAT scales are by far the most trustworthy scales out there.

In fact, CAT Scale offers an unconditional Guarantee:

“If you get an overweight fine from the state after our scale showed your legal, we will immediately check our scale. If our scale is wrong, we will reimburse you for the fine. If our scale is correct, a representative of CAT Scale Company will appear in court with the driver as a witness”

Cat Scales:

A network of over 1,500 certified truck scales across the U.S. and Canada found primarily at truck stops. CAT scales are by far the most trustworthy scales out there.

In fact, CAT Scale offers an unconditional Guarantee:

“If you get an overweight fine from the state after our scale showed your legal, we will immediately check our scale. If our scale is wrong, we will reimburse you for the fine. If our scale is correct, a representative of CAT Scale Company will appear in court with the driver as a witness”

G-Town's Comment
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What about going through trucks stops cat scales? I always set my brakes and shut off the truck so they can hear me.

Use your trolley brake (Johnson Bar). It will solve your problem.

CAT Scale:

A network of over 1,500 certified truck scales across the U.S. and Canada found primarily at truck stops. CAT scales are by far the most trustworthy scales out there.

In fact, CAT Scale offers an unconditional Guarantee:

“If you get an overweight fine from the state after our scale showed your legal, we will immediately check our scale. If our scale is wrong, we will reimburse you for the fine. If our scale is correct, a representative of CAT Scale Company will appear in court with the driver as a witness”

Cat Scales:

A network of over 1,500 certified truck scales across the U.S. and Canada found primarily at truck stops. CAT scales are by far the most trustworthy scales out there.

In fact, CAT Scale offers an unconditional Guarantee:

“If you get an overweight fine from the state after our scale showed your legal, we will immediately check our scale. If our scale is wrong, we will reimburse you for the fine. If our scale is correct, a representative of CAT Scale Company will appear in court with the driver as a witness”

Rick S.'s Comment
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Hate to disagree with you Rick, but if he puts his tandems in the 11 hole...balancing out a load that's probably cubed out, his problem is solved. If he was driving an older ProStar, I'd agree with the fuel weight. I have never had this issue in a Cascadia.

Por favor. Disagree any time you want. You're the one that's been out there doing this.

But depending on what he's driving - simply being 100 over on the steers could have been resolved with a fuel burn-off, and not having to have the load re-worked.

I was looking more at the "pure physics equation".

Rick

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

G-Town's Comment
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Hate to disagree with you Rick, but if he puts his tandems in the 11 hole...balancing out a load that's probably cubed out, his problem is solved. If he was driving an older ProStar, I'd agree with the fuel weight. I have never had this issue in a Cascadia.

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Por favor. Disagree any time you want. You're the one that's been out there doing this.

But depending on what he's driving - simply being 100 over on the steers could have been resolved with a fuel burn-off, and not having to have the load re-worked.

I was looking more at the "pure physics equation".

Rick

True that Rick...it was his second weigh that threw me off. I think overall the problem was dumping the air while on the scale, which none of us realized until a very recent reply. Let's see how all this plays out for him...best of luck Aaron.

G-Town out.

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Jason's Comment
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Personally you wouldnt worry about it. The fuel will burn off at roughly 9lbs a gallon, so you should be good in less than 100 miles. Or you could try moving the pins back a few holes. most states allow for an overage and 100lbs isnt bad.

murderspolywog's Comment
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I would take a look at the routing and if its the 80/90 thought Indy I would run with what ever weight I had on the steers. I run usually around 12300 on my steers in Indy and just fuel up after scales and burn off before, knock on wood I have never been stopped for running heavy on steers. G town is right in his thinking about weight lifting I have seen steers at 13k and move the tandoms and had them at 12k. This next part comes from a DOT office in swift when I ran with them. If your not exceeding the weight of your steer tires or the suspension, the DOT can not right you a ticket for being over weight on the steers. Take it for what you want. Good job on trying to stay legal.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Steve L.'s Comment
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Dumb question; do you have an APU? If so, you should have a sheet in your permit book showing the weight of the apu and you're typically allowed that.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

APU:

Auxiliary Power Unit

On tractor trailers, and APU is a small diesel engine that powers a heat and air conditioning unit while charging the truck's main batteries at the same time. This allows the driver to remain comfortable in the cab and have access to electric power without running the main truck engine.

Having an APU helps save money in fuel costs and saves wear and tear on the main engine, though they tend to be expensive to install and maintain. Therefore only a very small percentage of the trucks on the road today come equipped with an APU.

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