14 Hr Clock

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Member's Comment
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I ran out of my 14 at a shipper should I switch from off duty to sleeper? Also am I stuck here overnight for 10 hrs? At this point I’ll b running off recaps plz advise

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Diver Driver's Comment
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If the shipper allows you to stay on site, park it and get in the sleeper. Yes, you're stuck for 10.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Old School's Comment
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This is one of those situations where knowing

The Logbook Rules (HOS)

can really help you run your truck more profitably. Had you put yourself on the sleeper berth line at the shipper , when eight hours had passed you'd still have the same amount of time on your fourteen hour clock that you had when you arrived there. This is the perfect scenario for the use of the split sleeper berth rule.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Logbook:

A written or electronic record of a driver's duty status which must be maintained at all times. The driver records the amount of time spent driving, on-duty not driving, in the sleeper berth, or off duty. The enforcement of the Hours Of Service Rules (HOS) are based upon the entries put in a driver's logbook.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Dead Money's Comment
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This is one of those situations where knowing

The Logbook Rules (HOS)

can really help you run your truck more profitably. Had you put yourself on the sleeper berth line at the shipper , when eight hours had passed you'd still have the same amount of time on your fourteen hour clock that you had when you arrived there. This is the perfect scenario for the use of the split sleeper berth rule.

Let’s say the op had 5 hours left on his/her 14 hour clock, and the shipper took 6 hours to load, then said they can’t stay. Sleeper berth wouldn’t have saved the day. What is the solution the op could have prepared for in advance?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Logbook:

A written or electronic record of a driver's duty status which must be maintained at all times. The driver records the amount of time spent driving, on-duty not driving, in the sleeper berth, or off duty. The enforcement of the Hours Of Service Rules (HOS) are based upon the entries put in a driver's logbook.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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Sometimes even the best trip planning cant keep you from this scenario. i have driven into customers i had to do 550 miles in one shift and needed to stay at the receiver. it is poor planners in my opinion, not poor trip planning of the driver on some loads.

Dave Reid's Comment
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Yes but sometimes the planning is fine but then loading or unloading takes longer than expected. If the 14 hr has expired and the DC won't allow us to remain, then we drive in violation to the closest safe parking, and notate our logs in accordance with whatever procedure our company's safety department dictates.

Also, when load planners schedule loads, they don't know what driver is going to get the assignment nor what that driver's HOS status will be. When dispatched, if the driver and dispatcher believe it is doable, then we endeavor to make it happen. If the supper/receiver takes more time than they usually do, we just have to deal with it the best we can.

Sometimes even the best trip planning cant keep you from this scenario. i have driven into customers i had to do 550 miles in one shift and needed to stay at the receiver. it is poor planners in my opinion, not poor trip planning of the driver on some loads.

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
PackRat's Comment
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Good replies all. Another thing you can do is call the shipper/receiver and find out if they do allow parking.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Diver Driver's Comment
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If you're forced to leave, I would suggest going to the off duty driving line and documenting it thoroughly. Send a message to dispatch, and to the log department. Then, proceed directly to the CLOSEST parking area and complete your break, and hope thatin the next 7 days you either don't get pulled into a chicken coop, or that you get an understanding officer.

The FMCSA has recently removed the "empty"/ "unladen" and "short distance" wording from the off duty driving guidance.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Member's Comment
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Thx for all the tips and replies everyone

Susan D. 's Comment
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If a customer runs us out of hours and then tries to tell us we have to leave, my company will call the customer and not so gently remind them of the law that says we cannot drive that truck if we're out of hours. They also let the customer know that if they have the truck towed, it will be at their own expense. They usually quickly find us an out of the way place to park or if we're very near a terminal , will get one of our mechanics or another driver will drive our truck, while we drive the service pickup back to the terminal. We do have a couple customer locations, that if we're low on drive time, we're not to deliver the load and they'll reschedule it.

My company doesn't allow the personal conveyance provision.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

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