CDL Physicals Repeated At Schools?

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Don's Comment
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When I get to CFI next week, we new arrivals will be doing our drug tests and getting physicals. If we had to do physicals to get our CLP , why do we get another physical done at the schools? I am not referring to the drug tests, as that is a no-brainer. Seems like a waste of my $$ to get a physical to get my CLP, just to get another one a few weeks later.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

Army 's Comment
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Does CFI require you to have a CLP before you head off to school? From what I have been reading most companies get you to test for the learners permit around the end of the first week of school.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

G-Town's Comment
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That is company specific. For example; with Swift you must report to their academy with a valid CLP and medical card.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

Army 's Comment
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G-Town

Good to know and thanks for the information even though it is not my thread. What are you thoughts about schools that don't require that? Maybe a little less stress at the start of school if you have both before going even though you might have a little more out of pocket money.

Thank you.

Susan D. 's Comment
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When I attended CDL school, the permit and dot physical were part of the school.. included in the tuition and physicals were done the first day. Naturally after I finished and obtained my CDL, my new employer had us get a new physical from their own doctor, which is very normal. Every company you go to will require you to have a new physical, whether your current one is expiring or not. Just the way it is.

If you attend a school which requires a permit before you are accepted, it's because they do not want to waste time and openings for people who may not be able to pass a DOT physical. Unfortunately it is a federal requirement to have a valid DOT physical in order to obtain a CDL permit. I know you are now realizing what a waste that money was, but it is what it is. Incidentally at my CDL school, there were 12 in my class and 3 of them couldn't pass a DOT physical and we're promptly bootef out of the class.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Don's Comment
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Yes.

Does CFI require you to have a CLP before you head off to school? From what I have been reading most companies get you to test for the learners permit around the end of the first week of school.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

Don's Comment
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To clarify, I got my physical and have my 2-year med card. along with my CLP. I should have asked if we already have a physical and med card (within the last month), why would we have another physical at school? As Susan D. stated, at company orientation, I am sure we will have another physical. Being the cheap person I am, I could have saved $80.00. I kidding about the "big" expense.....well, half-kidding.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

PackRat's Comment
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Every major carrier will make you do a DOT physical at orientation. Think of it as part of their hiring process.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Don's Comment
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I am referring to having to do another phyical the first day of cdl school, not the new company drivers orientation. Anywho, 3 physicals in about 3 months should satisfy any company about my health status. :-)

Every major carrier will make you do a DOT physical at orientation. Think of it as part of their hiring process.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Jmart's Comment
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When I get to CFI next week, we new arrivals will be doing our drug tests and getting physicals. If we had to do physicals to get our CLP , why do we get another physical done at the schools? I am not referring to the drug tests, as that is a no-brainer. Seems like a waste of my $$ to get a physical to get my CLP, just to get another one a few weeks later.

Don, Unless something has changed in the last couple of months, if you already have had a physical, you will not need to get one at CFI. They do then for those that need them. You will need to submit to the urine/hair follicle drug screens m.

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

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